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Entered the GFS torture zone...

Discussion in 'Other T-Types and Partscasters' started by Miguello, Feb 12, 2017.

  1. Ira7

    Ira7 Friend of Leo's

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    As the owner of a few Duncan pups...and reading the opinions of others here...

    They're not what you would call widely loved pickups in a general sense, especially when you factor in cost comparisons to boutique makers and even discount providers, like GFS.
     
  2. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    "That's not a veneer top, right?"

    Nope, not that I can see. It looks like a solid two piece body. The same grain is in the bottom of the pickup routing.
     
  3. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    This Tele has a 20 year old Duncan pickup in the bridge, and a brand new Duncan Vintage 54 in the neck. They sound pretty nice to me. Lots of character and textures. No complaints.
     
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  5. MonkeyJefferson

    MonkeyJefferson Tele-Meister

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    I've had good luck with them.
     
  6. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    I have been thinking on the whole finishing thing. I am seriously considering darkening the grain with a youtube trick I saw. They used wallboard joint compound mixed to a pancake batter consistency with a black paint from an art supply store. It supposedly darkened the grain, and filled it at the same time, when you would wet sand it off. I would sand it clean again, then some kind of sealer possibly, then a Tru oil finish. Also considering sanding it up to 600, a few coats of Amber Shellac, then some minwax lacquer. I will probably redo the neck too, with the lacquer.


    A smooth and level oil finish would be nice. I want to see the grain, just not the lines in the grain, where the oil sinks in. Then of course shielding in the pockets. It has no shielding right now, and it has the hum you'd expect.
     
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  7. elskipper

    elskipper TDPRI Member

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    I recently picked up an unfinished paulownia GFS body myself, and lo and behold it had many of the same problems. Bridge string holes misaligned, control cavity too long, and the upper bout shape is hopelessly incorrect. Add to that the ragged appearance of the cutaways and the body sides, it's basically a disaster.

    Fortunately, it was purchased to use up some cheap but serviceable parts to use as a beater, and the misalignment of the bridge wasn't hard to correct for this one.

    It plays OK, but never again will I buy one of these. There are better options.
     
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  8. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    Tried to do some spraying yesterday, the only rain break we had in the last week. Of course the shellac was trying to dry as it was coming out of the gun and landing on the body. Even thinned out. I am letting it harden, and probably going to do 3-4 coats with a brush.
     
  9. Ira7

    Ira7 Friend of Leo's

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    I would stick with the spray.
     
  10. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    Well, come mix and shoot it for me. It was drying before it hit the body, which will NOT work.
     
  11. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    Alright, well I am sorry if I sounded a little testy, it's because I was, at the time. But anyway. I gave up on the shellac idea... I stripped it back down, and shot four coats of straight clear lacquer...

    Annnnd, yeah. I finally agree on the pickguard too. The patterns clash... big time. Soooo, I will build another Tele so I can use the Tortie on it. Probably Light blue metallic, or maybe even black? I hate white though... On guitars, on cars, etc etc etc. Anything pretty much. I'd prefer even turquoise solid over white.

    What color for this one? I don't like black on anything but butterscotch...

    Current pic...

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  12. SPUDCASTER

    SPUDCASTER Friend of Leo's

    Sure you need a pickguard? Some nice grain there. Kind of a shame to cover that up. Maybe not the torture zone you thought?

    Would solve the pickguard color issue.

    Trim ring on the neck pickup?

    That's my initial take.;)
     
  13. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    The sad part is, as good as this grain looks, the grain looks even better on the back! I wish they had flipped it over before they started cutting the neck pocket, lol. I actually like the pickguard shape on the classic Tele. It complements the body shape perfectly IMHO.
     
  14. Miguello

    Miguello TDPRI Member

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    I think I going to try a trim ring. If I don't like it later, I can drill for a full guard. I installed the neck so it can hang a little longer without fear of falling. I might use some superfine 3000 paper and hand polish it, but it looks nice enough as is. The feel of fresh lacquer is very nice. Much smoother feeling than poly, IMHO. Very slick feeling.

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  15. Endless Mike

    Endless Mike Tele-Afflicted

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    That was my experience as well
     
  16. TeleTown

    TeleTown Friend of Leo's

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    Your not alone! Bought one from a partscaster builder from Texas. What a pile of CACA. The Builder told me that everything was correct on it, so I took the chance. I no better than to buy something I cant play. My fault, and another lesson learned.
     
  17. teleforumnoob

    teleforumnoob Tele-Afflicted

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    I musta got lucky. My raw pawlonia from GFS lined up perfectly. All I had to do was dremel out the neck pickup cavity a bit for the L45, a strat sized pickup. Didn't even have to enlarge the string thru holes to get it aligned. Allparts TMO Fat neck,well under 6lbs. Finish is just a buncha thin layers of shellac. My #1.
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  18. Ira7

    Ira7 Friend of Leo's

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    I'll never understand this:

    I'm not a lucky guy, but I'm three for three with no problems with GFS, and just one an XGP.
     
  19. Ira7

    Ira7 Friend of Leo's

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    Can we see a photo supporting your claim that the "upper bout shape is hopelessly incorrect?"
     
  20. dkmw

    dkmw Tele-Holic

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    Ira, I really don't want to throw GFS under the bus because, all in all, I'm satisfied with the unfinished paulownia body I received.

    But the outline is a little off. I was able to sand out a small hump on the lower horn, but the upper bout curve would need material added to get it right.

    As I said in another post about this, I wanted a light body; and I certainly got that (2.6 lbs after I did sealer and lacquer, finished). For the $s, it's not a bad body. I expected to have to do a little work on it.

    But I've also bought a couple of pine bodies from Clearfork Designs (he auctions ones that have slight blems) at similar prices - I've compared those to my US Fender body and they match up perfectly. The GFS doesn't.

    All that said, the GFS body, with an Allparts TMO Fat, Wilkinson bridge/saddles, and a $25 set of CV 50s pups produces a very fun little guitar. A couple of the hometown pros even wanted to play it when I brought it by the local shop. They liked it a lot more than I thought they would. The 5.6 lb weight was a big hit; they both said that would feel good hanging around their necks for 3 hours...
     
  21. brbadg

    brbadg Tele-Holic

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    You have the wrong bridge.You need to get the six saddle one like on the Affinitys
     
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