Efficient 12 inch speaker for a Princeton Clone

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  1. Whoa Tele

    Whoa Tele Friend of Leo's

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    i have a vintage sound 15 watt Princeton that has the stock wgs 12c/s speaker in it. I'm finding I need a little more clean headroom for live use and have been looking at the Eminence Allesandro 12 inch GA64 as its more efficient and works well with blackface circuits according to reviews I've read. Amy other suggestions of efficient 12 inch speakers that will increase clean headroom without sacrificing the basic tone of the amp. Thanks
     
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    I have the Allesandro and it's a great speaker and will definitely give you another knob number of volume (and NO break in time!). Does push the weight of the amp up several lbs if that's an issue.
     
  3. Whoa Tele

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    Thanks man. I will compare speaker weights but that shouldn't be an issue.
     
  4. Whoa Tele

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    My amp actually has the WGS 12C not the 12CS.
     
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    I use a Princeton clone, 15W, and my choice was, well still IS, an Eminence The Tonker.

    I cannot speak of weight because is the one I choose since i built it. Never had another speaker in that amp
     
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    I love the GA SC64 BUT, I recently bought an amp with the WGS 12C, and my feeling is that speaker is a bit cleaner, but not as loud. Mostly it doesnt have the fat low end the GA SC has I guess. I sold the WGS.
    For cleaner and louder, if not the GA SC then I would try:
    Weber 12F150 or 150T, 50 watt
    Eminence Legend (Very loud and clean)
     
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    I put a Tonker in a Blues Jr. I used to own and it was a loud clean machine. Might not be a bad choice but might take some of the Blackface vibe away.
     
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    Eminence Wizard.
     
  9. Whoa Tele

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    I guess I'd also like to clean up some of the flub/farting out on the bass notes as well. This may just be inherent within the Princeton circuit.
     
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    I put an Eminence Legend 1258 in the last clone I built. It was very nice, efficient and good overall response.
     
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    I HIGHLY recommend the JS-1250 from Eminence. It's the Josh Smith signature speaker. Eminence lists the sensitivity at 101.4 dB.

    It's made for Princeton Reverbs and Princeton Reverb clones. Here it is in his Morgan Princeton Reverb clone.

     
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    For clean headroom, JBL D120.
     
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    Eminence Red White and Blues.
     
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    I love Warehouse speakers. They're quality and priced right.
     
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    Another one to consider is the Eminence EJ-1240. I put one in my BF Deluxe-Amp and like it rather a lot, it's very even-handed and takes tone controls well.
     
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    Any of those Three I mentioned should help then. I use a PR a lot and they do get a little nasty in a 4-5 piece band mix and medium or larger clubs.
    Weber 12F150 or T: Big bottom, loud, good highs but not spikey highs. (needs a ton of breaking in)
    GA SC64: About the same as the Weber is once the Weber is well broken in. A touch less loud but not much.
    Legend 12: Loud. Clean, a bit less bottom end than the other two and little more high emphasis.
    Legend 1258 Big sounding , lots of bottom end.

    I solved any low end fart with simply a big Power Transformer in my Princeton Rev.
     
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  17. Whoa Tele

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    Not putting them down. The speaker sounds great. I just want more clean headroom to make the amp more giggable.
     
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    If you have some spare change, the new cream Alnico
    will give you loads of headroom to spare.
    I have one in my bourdeaux.
     
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    I don't think the old D120s are as loud (efficient) as people think. Did a side by side with an orange frame D120F and a Celestion G12H30 Anniversary, without changing settings the Celestion was louder. But the JBL is pretty clean.
     
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    I highly recommend:

    Weber 12F150 ("light dope")
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    Allen T020 Output transformer
     
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