@Euro: Yeah, that is a good way to walk in patches. I work fairly similarly, and I have a pretty nice catalogue of patches I have built for most of my guitars. I feel like I am missing something with the Orange because it just sounds so much worse than I am used to. @StormJH1: Sorry about boxy as a description, I personally tend to dislike a lot of audio descriptive lingo because it tends to be vague. Small sounding artificially large is generally what I am aiming towards. The amp sounds like a tiny speaker blaring than the 12" the Mustang actually has. I have played with a friends Tiny Terror and another friends TH30. Like I said, they are not my favorite amp maker, but I find them workable. The Mustang so far just does not really 'feel' like an Orange to me from what I remember. I will try the Two Rock when I sync my amp next time, intheblues dude does some excellent work with Mustangs. I wish I could A/B with my friends Tiny Terror, but he is ultra protective of his stuff and 100+ miles away. D: @Nick0: That's cool, I feel like there could be something in the Orange model if I can figure out where it is not working for me.