we have no drums and we don't miss them at all. no BS. We use drumsticks on the dash of the car to double for handicap parking permits.:grin: We practiced with drums this week and I tell you I dont miss drummers BS at all. We just practicing and the guy shows up with a set carl palmer would choke on. I think he even brought a freeking 4 ft gong he had in the van ..Took 2 hours for the guy to set it up.Then we didnt feel like playing. We were tired from watchin him. Any charlie watt clones out there?