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Disapointed with Belton 9pins sockets (VT9-ST2)

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by vince67, Jun 18, 2018.

  1. Jun 18, 2018 #1
    vince67

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    Hello everyone,

    I'm currently building an AC15 clone hand ave ordered these Belton 9pins sockets (VT9-ST2) to fit my 12AX7s, EF86, and EL84s...

    I read some boutique manufacturers really like them and they kinda look cool, but I can say I'm very disappointed with those. I find some of these sockets are really too loose. I really would not recommend them.



    I'm wondering if anyone had any good/bad experience with this type of sockets?


    I have ordered some ceramic sockets to replace the Belton's, which I have used in the past, I will put an update once I have fitted them, but I am confident these will be much more tighter.
     
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  2. Jun 18, 2018 #2
    King Fan

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    That's a bummer. I've had very good luck with the Beltons. If anything, mine can be almost too tight on initial use.

    Not sure if there are 'old' Beltons with the 'flower petal' pin springs you can adjust and 'new' Beltons with fixed springs that you can't???
     
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  3. Jun 18, 2018 #3
    schmee

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    I hate ceramics. Wont use them. Are you sure they are loose? You know the pin holders float in the plastic right? So ....you can wiggle the tube, but the pins are tight.
     
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  4. Jun 18, 2018 #4
    dan40

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    All of the Beltons I have used have also been very tight when installing a tube for the first time. Like schmee mentioned, the pins do have quite a bit of wiggle to them until you insert a tube. This is actually a good thing and helps to prevent tube breakage when inserting a tube with slightly bent pins.
     
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  5. Jun 19, 2018 #5
    vince67

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    Thanks for all your replies!

    It's the new ones:
    http://www.karltone.co.uk/belton-9-pin-vt9-st2-socket-505-p.asp


    Yes, I'm aware the pins are loose until a tube is inserted.

    @schmee. Yes that's correct, the tube can wiggle, but the contact between the tube and the pins seems to stay solid.
    Still, I don't like it. I'm going to do comparisons this weekends with the ceramics.
     
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  6. Jun 19, 2018 #6
    sds1

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    I dunno man, seems like all sockets do this to some degree.
     
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  7. Jun 19, 2018 #7
    King Fan

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    As Dan40 says, it sounds like a feature, and a plus in function. At worst it has no downside.

    Do not go gently into that ceramic night...
     
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  8. Jul 11, 2018 #8
    vince67

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    Ok. Just a quick update. I did get ceramic sockets for comparison, an they're about the same. They can also wiggle from side to side. But once every pin is wired and solder it's much tighter.

    I guess it's just me worrying for nothing, it's been some time since my last build so I forgot how some of those part feel. :)
     
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