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"Directional" guitar cables

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Hexabuzz, Oct 22, 2016.

  1. Hexabuzz

    Hexabuzz Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 13, 2014
    Northeast PA
    So...

    Evidence Audio says:

    "The Lyric HG, like all Evidence Audio Cable, is directional. This means sound travels through it with better tonal qualities in one direction than the other."


    Can anyone explain or refute this claim?
     

  2. demon

    demon Tele-Meister

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    Sounds like nonsense to me. Sound doesn't travel through it at all. And an electric guitar signal is AC.
     

  3. Zesty feline

    Zesty feline Tele-Meister

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    Avoid them, I've heard that "One Direction" used those cables!
     
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  4. Blue Bill

    Blue Bill Friend of Leo's Ad Free + Supporter

    Feb 15, 2014
    Maine
    Yeah, I can't think of any way ac signal could go "better" in one direction. Unless there's some sort of diode involved, but that would cause distortion, which is never better than an undistorted signal. I say BS.
     
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  5. Chris S.

    Chris S. Asst. Admin Staff Member Ad Free Member

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    This is one of those subjects like "tone woods" that can't be proven either way. It's opinion and conjecture vs. opinion and conjecture. No thanks. CS
     

  6. Steerforth

    Steerforth Tele-Afflicted

    May 17, 2009
    Arkansas
    If you plug them in the wrong way, you'll hear backmasked messages when you play.
     
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  7. bchaffin72

    bchaffin72 Friend of Leo's

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    I was going to say as well that the only way you could make it one-directional is slap some sort of diode in there. And that's really not going to do anything useful, now is it?
     

  8. william tele

    william tele Doctor of Teleocity

    Nov 7, 2009
    Kansas City, MO
    Directional cables make a big difference in sound...to some people.
     
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  9. cboutilier

    cboutilier Tele-Afflicted

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    I'm going to file this one under serious BS. AC Current will travel down a conductor either direction just fine. I would image the orientation of the cord has about as much effect as the change in gravitational potential energy in the electrons climbing up to a marshall stack as opposed to a small combo.
     
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  10. Blue Bill

    Blue Bill Friend of Leo's Ad Free + Supporter

    Feb 15, 2014
    Maine
    I looked up EA cables. I couldn't find any explanation for the directional difference. They do recommend at least 40 hours of "break-in", that is, play through the cables for 40 plus hours, which gives the dialectric characteristics time to stabilize, and allows the molecular structure to align itself.

    I'll say this for them: there's lots of people writing reviews insisting that, after the allotted 40 hours, the cables sure do sound super-duper. Plus, David Gilmore uses them; proof positive of, well... something.

    Here's an example of an enthusiastic EA user: "...we’re discussing the necessary need for a naked, pure, sound without masks or mysticism — and some ears cannot, and will not, handle that reality. Those frightened folks are happy enough to mash down the impurities of their sound with stompboxes and cables that yearn to please with a predetermined, dull, aesthetic..."

    https://bolesblogs.com/2009/11/10/the-evidence-audio-cables-review/

    Huh?
     
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  11. Racer5

    Racer5 Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 27, 2010
    San Antonio, TX
    That's why i always put my head on the floor, the tone has to fight too much to travel up if it's sitting on top of my cab.
     
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  12. bchaffin72

    bchaffin72 Friend of Leo's

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    So remember, kiddies, along with your wallet, bring your bionic ears or you just won't be able to appreciate the awesomeness of our....................marketing department.
     
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  13. Sandhill69

    Sandhill69 Tele-Holic

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    It is your responsibility, no, our collective responsibility, to keep good electrons from going bad. Throughout the signal chain there are an almost endless series of opportunities for the electrons we shepherd to come under degrading influences, whether they be from wire of inappropriate gauge, strand count, silver content, insulating material, or directionality. And we all know that there is no redemption...once an electron has gone bad there is no way it can become good again, despite those charlatans who claim for example that the effects of a clockwise twisted conductor can be reversed by an anti-clockwise twisted conductor. I beg my fellows to not doubt the power of the virtuous signal path, and above all do not fall under the influence of those of little faith who do not believe that the tone, to say nothing of the soul itself, of a wire changes over the course of say forty hours of break in.
     

  14. william tele

    william tele Doctor of Teleocity

    Nov 7, 2009
    Kansas City, MO
    This is definitely in "Tone Rite" territory. This is one of the funnier testaments I've read about the ToneRite:

    Yes, it works.
    I repair/restore guitars for a living, and here is something I've noticed again and again over the years:

    Any time you disturb a long established system, it's like a shock the system needs time to recover from. Acoustic and electric instruments essentially react the same way to this.A "shock to the system" can be a refret, neck reset, bridge reglue, but even something as simple as removing and re-attaching the neck on a bolt-on guitar.

    Afterwards, the guitar doesn't sound the same, and it usually sounds worse.
    Now, typically the instrument will "come back" after some time. Depending on the severity of the disturbance, it can take months.

    The ToneRite speeds this process up significantly.
     
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  15. Mike Simpson

    Mike Simpson Doctor of Teleocity

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    If they are directional... does it matter which end I put the snake oil on?
     
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  16. bchaffin72

    bchaffin72 Friend of Leo's

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    Yes. Always work the snake oil from left to right. NO exceptions..............
     
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  17. bchaffin72

    bchaffin72 Friend of Leo's

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    I guess some of my potting wax must have worked its way into my ears. I've removed and reattached my necks plenty of times. The dramatic, horrible change I noticed was....................absolutely none.:D
     
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  18. sonicsmitty

    sonicsmitty Tele-Meister

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    It could just be proof positive that famous, respected people can be duped as well.
     
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  19. Torz Johnson

    Torz Johnson Tele-Afflicted

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  20. jman72

    jman72 Tele-Holic

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    Guitar cables are copper wires. There is no "molecular structure" to a copper wire- it is a metallic crystalline material (face centered cubic structure) made up of copper atoms arranged identically from one end of the wire to the other. There is no "sound" moving in a copper wire- it is only the movement of delocalized electrons through the wire created by the voltage difference between the guitar pickup and the amp that allows sound to be transmitted as electrical current. All this talk about break in and dielectric characteristics is simply false.
     
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