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Difference between the new Blues Junior IV and the previous incarnation??

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Jared Purdy, Jul 26, 2018.

  1. Jared Purdy

    Jared Purdy Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    58
    Jan 26, 2010
    Toronto, Ontario.
    Greetings,

    It's been a looonnngggg time since I posted here. Can anyone comment on the tonal difference between the new BJ versus the previous model? The Fender web site states that there has been some modification to the tone. Without having the ability to play the two variants side by side, it's impossible to know what the difference is.

    I can buy a new, older model, in tweed, for a very good price ($600), compared to the newer one, which I'd have to pay closer to $800 for.

    Regards, Jared.
     

  2. Old Tele man

    Old Tele man Friend of Leo's

    May 10, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    The new SIX is smoother and more creamier than the old HALF-DOZEN (sarcasm).
     
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  3. tominwa

    tominwa Tele-Meister

    328
    Sep 15, 2016
    Olympia, Wa
    Yes, saw one last weekend on the floor and tried it. Already trying to justify selling old one and taking the loss. Agree with above, Smoother? a right word. Fuller? It just sounded better than my stock BJ III.
     
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  4. Jared Purdy

    Jared Purdy Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    58
    Jan 26, 2010
    Toronto, Ontario.
    I haven't had the chance to play either one. I went into one store today, just on a whim, and they had what looked like the new one, but I was pressed for time, so I didn't check it out. It was $800. Later, I went to another store to see what they had in stock, and they had the BJ III, in tweed, new, for $600. The CS person told me that they have all of their amps marked low as they just aren't selling. Problem was, the amp was defective, power came on, but no sound, so they have to get the tech to look at it. If it's a dud, he sad he'd give me a good price on the IV. Without having heard either one, I've got no bench mark.
     
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  5. tominwa

    tominwa Tele-Meister

    328
    Sep 15, 2016
    Olympia, Wa
    Oh they can be tricky. Two weeks ago i was in the store and pointed at a blues Jr to the sales guy I was walking with and said "hey is that the new one?" Straight faced he said it was the latest model. It was a III. They pretended they didn't know there was a IV out. Now a couple weeks later that III is gone and the IV is on the floor. They knew....they knew.

    Don't get me wrong, My BJ III is a great amp, not knocking it one bit.
     

  6. tce63

    tce63 Tele-Holic

    733
    Jan 18, 2013
    Sweden
    I love my Bjr Tweed III
     
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  7. Big_Bend

    Big_Bend Poster Extraordinaire

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    Feb 19, 2010
    Houston, TX

  8. Jared Purdy

    Jared Purdy Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    58
    Jan 26, 2010
    Toronto, Ontario.
    I seem to recall that he became quite renowned for mods to the BJ?
     

  9. Veltek

    Veltek Tele-Holic

    602
    Sep 17, 2016
    Blues country
    Yup, he was the Blues Jr Modder! passed away this past year though. :(
     

  10. zombiwoof

    zombiwoof Tele-Holic

    704
    Oct 17, 2008
    Tujunga California
    Jeez, I remember when they first came out, they were around $250 or so new. Fender prices have really escalated over the last few years.
    Al
     

  11. GenoVox

    GenoVox TDPRI Member

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    Mar 6, 2009
    Amherst, NY
    I have had many Blues Juniors... green board, cream board, Tweed, black, with and without BillM mods and replacement speakers.... some were really cool, some sounded like a cardboard box with a head-cold

    The previous mkIII version was way too harsh and bright.... so I just bought (& sold) the newest mk IV version

    I could tell where Fender tried to tweak things, but it felt very stiff and unforgiving to me... even run through a nicely broken-in speaker. And it got really loud, really quickly – similar to the old HRD volume taper issue

    Best Blues Juniors I've had were the initial run of the NOS Tweed (stock), and an early cream board that had a few of the BillM mods and a C-Rex in it. I do find they are often hit & miss though....
     
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  12. JD0x0

    JD0x0 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Feb 22, 2009
    New York
    I heard the 4 incorporated a lot of mods that techs were commonly doing to the earlier amps to make them more reliable and sound better.
     
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  13. alnicopu

    alnicopu Friend of Leo's

    Oct 3, 2009
    georgia
    $600.00 for a used Blues Junior? Wow, they go for the $300.00 to $400.00 on the Atlanta CL. I saw a tweed “special edition” asking for about $475.00 a while back but that just means I have to yank out the p12r and put in a legend.
     

  14. TommyJK

    TommyJK TDPRI Member

    Age:
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    Aug 7, 2018
    Toronto ON, Canada
    Curious where you are seeing good deals being offered on amps in Toronto? I've been around to the usual suspects and everyone has the exact same pricing, including BJIII Tweed which is $780 at every place I've been to.
    Thanks
     
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  15. VintageSG

    VintageSG Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

    Mar 31, 2016
    Yorkshire
    Have they always been MDF cabinets?. Just looking at the Fender site and they cite particle board.
     

  16. brbadg

    brbadg Tele-Afflicted

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    Mar 11, 2008
    Timonium,Maryland
    He's in Canada.
     

  17. zombiwoof

    zombiwoof Tele-Holic

    704
    Oct 17, 2008
    Tujunga California
    Oops, didn't notice that!.
    Al
     

  18. Vizcaster

    Vizcaster Friend of Leo's

    Sep 15, 2007
    Glen Head, NY
    Some of the tweeds were FSR (Fender special run) for certain venders and there's a name plate on the back - the only importance was that some of the tweeds had "Jensen" reissue-branded speakers which IRRC when I got mine the speaker was a little smoother and less sizzly (trying not to say ice-picky) compared to the normal speaker at the time.
     

  19. MilwMark

    MilwMark Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Apr 29, 2013
    near Arnold's
    Even at the conversion rate that is expensive, even for list. Should be more like $688 Canadian list and willing to deal from that.
     

  20. TommyJK

    TommyJK TDPRI Member

    Age:
    59
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    Aug 7, 2018
    Toronto ON, Canada
    Sorry for all the confusion I've created. Saw that JP is from TO and wanted to know where he saw good pricing on BJr.

    Our list up here on the new IV is C$800 which at the current exchange rate is just over US$600, exactly what the amp lists for in the US. We're sitting on a 75 cent dollar up here.
     
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