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Did I buy a guitar with two Seymour Duncan Bridge pickups?

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Golem, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Golem

    Golem Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

    I'm not complaining because I got a good deal and it doesn't sound bad, just fuller and warmer in the neck than I had expected. Both pickups have the same code.
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  2. YoGeorge

    YoGeorge Tele-Afflicted

    Mar 16, 2003
    Michigan
    Looks like yes....the neck should have a "1n" instead of a "1b" designation.

    But in the old days, guitar pickups were picked from a bin and oftimes the neck was hotter than the bridge, or they were most often the same.

    I wanted a pair of clear buckers for a Les Paul and bought a pair of Duncan '59 NECK pickups for both positions. Matched volumes with pickup heights just like in the old days. I measured them and think one was 7.08k and one was 7.05k and I put the "hotter" one in the bridge :)

    You should be fine, but if it bugs you, change out the neck pickup. Is that a Hamer 335ish guitar? I remember that some of those had a 25.5" scale which I would really like.

    George
     
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  3. Golem

    Golem Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

    The previous owner was an acoustic player and didn't know much about this (including the mods). It's definitely a Hamer Echotone. I don't think I can tell what the scale is without measuring it, but I heard 25.25" was the scale. I prefer that neck length but it wasn't a factor in me purchasing it. It also doesn't have that 15 degree headstock tilt, which makes it less prone to breakage.
     

  4. Asmith

    Asmith Friend of Leo's

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    Typically P90s are usually wound the same (number of winds, DCR, blah blah.) regardless if it's the bridge or neck.

    Edit: SD Phat Cats should measure at 8.5k for the bridge and 8k for the neck if you want to check for yourself.
     

  5. nojazzhere

    nojazzhere Friend of Leo's

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    Many people have specific preferences for neck/bridge pickups, but I don't unless they are drastically different. It just so happens that on my Tele the bridge p/u measures around 10K ohms, and the neck and middle (yeah, middle) are both around 12K Ohms. I simply adjust the pick up height a little different....besides, on your guitar, you have separate volume/tone controls....you can compensate. HOW DO THEY SOUND? I wouldn't overthink this.
    ....FWIW....I've rarely been accused of overthinking ANYTHING. ;)
     

  6. dogmeat

    dogmeat Tele-Meister

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    not the original pickups.... the Echotone was Korean made with "Duncan Design" pups. nice guitars though... I put Seth Lovers in mine.

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    and fwiw, the SD Phat Cats were designed for the Hamer Newport, which was an American made guitar at about 3x the money. similar, but only one tone & volume. I got one of those too
     
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  7. wildschwein

    wildschwein Tele-Afflicted

    Apparently, in the earlier years of electric guitar production there were only pickups and neck and bridge specs didn't exist.
     
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  8. Mincer

    Mincer Tele-Meister

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    This is true. You can balance the Phat Cats with pickup height, like they did back then. There isn't a huge difference in output between neck and bridge of these models, anyway.
     
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  9. YoGeorge

    YoGeorge Tele-Afflicted

    Mar 16, 2003
    Michigan
    Having started playing in 1966, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, there was no such thing as different pickups for positions (other than a Tele which has 2 different styles) and some alleged overwound pickups were simply factory accidents. And could end up in the neck position as easily as they could in the bridge.

    I am a long time Hamer fan but have only boltnecks--I have 2 US T-51's (teles), a US Daytona (strat), and a mongrel tele with a USACG body and a US Daytona neck. Bought them all in the 90's (they were made 1993-1997) Interestingly, their bolt necks all used a square tele-style neck pocket but are also 1/16" wider than a Fender neck at the heel...

    I prefer longer scales so the Echotone always seemed like a cool guitar to have but I'm just not into 335ish guitars any more after playing a Gibson 335 as my main squeeze from 1976-1993. Got into Teles in '93 and like them best.

    George
     

  10. LtKojak

    LtKojak Tele-Meister

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    Golem: take a DC reading of both p'ups. It could be that one p'up got the wrong sticker.
     
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  11. YoGeorge

    YoGeorge Tele-Afflicted

    Mar 16, 2003
    Michigan
    I was gonna suggest that but would bet that it's a pair of bridge pickups. No big deal--pretend it's 1966 and you have a couple pickups that are slight overwinds :) Or swap out the neck pickup--I'm sure you could sell off an extra bridge pickup easily.
     

  12. blille

    blille Tele-Holic

    Easier: Phat Cat neck model in a set is RWRP so the middle position should be humless. If it’s not, you have two bridge pickups. No big deal.
     

  13. FerruleCat

    FerruleCat Tele-Meister Gold Supporter

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    May 2, 2017
    Tulsa, OK
    PM me if you want to sell one; I could pop it in my Epi Junior.

    (Edit: Although to be honest, in your situation I'd just lower the neck pickup an extra hair.)
     
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