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david torn and a kinna new guitar

Discussion in 'Music to Your Ears' started by chemobrain, Aug 4, 2017.

please rate his performances with an eye to composition and application of technology

Poll closed Sep 8, 2017.
  1. great

    87.5%
  2. good

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. interesting

    12.5%
  4. boring

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. not music

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. aplication of technology great

    25.0%
  7. aplication of technology good

    12.5%
  8. not so great intimidating

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. I don't get it

    12.5%
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  1. chemobrain

    chemobrain Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Nov 5, 2016
    oakland ca.

  2. gitold

    gitold Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    64
    Mar 25, 2009
    Greeley Co.
    I love David Torn.
     
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  3. emisilly

    emisilly Tele-Afflicted

    Age:
    50
    Jun 24, 2004
    Virginia Beach
    Mind blowing. I'll take his playing over any iconic shredder out there. He has a unique voice and approach. A true visionary artist.
     
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  4. kennl

    kennl Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 6, 2007
    Moon Township, PA
    sounds great
    difficult to watch a player so disconnected from the audience
    there's a reason nobody pays to watch you perform your day job
     
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  5. sockgtr

    sockgtr Tele-Meister

    293
    Mar 3, 2016
    Portland, OR
    ^ Talk about missing the point...
     
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  6. GuitarsFromMars

    GuitarsFromMars TDPRI Member

    Age:
    62
    67
    Apr 15, 2017
    ...playing in traffic
    Your idea of a disconnect is someone else's idea of sublimely creative.

    Look at this man's discography.

    Then, tell me again how he's not paying attention to others. He happens to be a fairly thoughtful and intuitive person

    This musician has a Grammy.

    How many did you say you have ? :cool:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Torn
     
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  7. chemobrain

    chemobrain Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Nov 5, 2016
    oakland ca.
    ah, I am not here to entertain you with thread bare frontman moves so that you'll love me.
    I am sharing with you a unique moment in time/space. an act of creation need not appear as the Saturday morning kiddy cartoon show
    an offering that has legs and can get up and walk all on its own merits.
     
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  8. kennl

    kennl Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 6, 2007
    Moon Township, PA
    Sockgtr, chemobrain, and guitars from mars:
    I hope my post was not misunderstood. I meant no criticism to David Torn, and struggle personally with conflicting feelings about audience responses to my loop-based performances.
    I thought the music was incredible, but that sort of performance seems less intimate to me.
    Bill Frisell is one of my favorite guitarists, but I cringe while watching him stoop down to tweak some pedal controls. In my experience, it feels more like watching someone involved in a conversation with an inanimate device, rather than having a conversation with that person.
     
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  9. kennl

    kennl Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 6, 2007
    Moon Township, PA
    audience connection and sublime creativity are not mutually exclusive
     
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  10. kennl

    kennl Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 6, 2007
    Moon Township, PA
    My Grammy count is a zero at the moment
    Same as Jimi Hendrix, a fairly thoughtful and intuitive person
    and one Grammy award short of Milli Vanilli
     
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  11. chemobrain

    chemobrain Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Nov 5, 2016
    oakland ca.
    you know there's a supposition in your statement . two in fact
    when I was a breakfast cook and rocking and rolling the would come in the kitchen to watch me do my thing while we cooked their food ,we , the line crew were the entertainment .
    two..... how can you presume that he is disconnected from his audience, are you a psychic?
     

  12. Durtdog

    Durtdog Poster Extraordinaire

    May 19, 2004
    Tennessee
    I think he's a very gifted and knowledgeable musician. I like those vids posted above.

    The kind of defensive reaction to someone not fawning over him that's been displayed in this thread doesn't surprise me. David Torn holds court (or used to) over at another page about guitar gear. I interacted with him on a thread and everyone was like, "don't question him, he's DAVID TORN for god's sake!"

    I actually had some decent conversations with him, despite other people freaking out.
     
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  13. chemobrain

    chemobrain Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Nov 5, 2016
    oakland ca.
    funny lol sad too,
    yeah that is the problem of making demi-godz of people who still eat sleep piss and defecate.
    I admire his talent ,intelligence and creativity . It seems that he has retained his boyish charm.
     

  14. tintag27

    tintag27 Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Jan 18, 2010
    Macclesfield, UK
    Very interesting - David plays with a melodic and sensitive style, and paints some hypnotic soundscapes.
    I can understand the drone effect of the strong echo and reverb - this is the electronic version of a technique heard in much of traditional Indian classical work, and also folk singing...
    For me it is prominent enough here to be intrusive, and constantly competes with Torn's delicate phrasing. Deliberate I assume, but it put me off
     
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  15. kennl

    kennl Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 6, 2007
    Moon Township, PA
    1) as "entertainment line cook", did you embellish an occasional action or make audience eye contact for effect?
    2) no psychic. I was the audience, and felt like I was watching something, instead of being PART OF SOMETHING. The term "shoe gazer" has some validity.

    I enjoyed the music personally, but believe more non-musicians would be drawn to the performance if it had just a bit more visual interaction.
     

  16. GearHund

    GearHund Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

    448
    Apr 9, 2008
    East, Tx
    Kinda funny, ask for opinions and then criticize when someone responds...
     

  17. chemobrain

    chemobrain Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Nov 5, 2016
    oakland ca.
    I Was not being critical only surprised by the presumption of knowing the state of another persons state of being from a video on you tube.
    "I have no idea what your spiritual state is just because I read your response to my response.just as I can not tell if your missing a limb, fish on the weekends are married to your childhood sweetheart.
    thank you for responding. it tells me that you are thinking about content and context.
     

  18. chemobrain

    chemobrain Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Nov 5, 2016
    oakland ca.
    tyhank you for you lively thoughtful reply.
    yes I can appreciate your point, nicely put.
     

  19. Durtdog

    Durtdog Poster Extraordinaire

    May 19, 2004
    Tennessee
    Fixed it for you.
     

  20. ScribbleSomething

    ScribbleSomething Tele-Meister Gold Supporter

    404
    Mar 12, 2016
    San Antonio
    I don’t think I’m in the right head space for this right now. I like some pretty abstract stuff — Enno, Richter, etc. But I kept waiting for the above clips to get started.

    I can tell he’s brilliant and a good/ great player. I’ll need to revisit him when I’m feeling more relaxed.

    Does he play anything without so much shimmer-verb?
     

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