CS 356ish build

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    5C476760-0CA7-4ECF-8EB0-FE17C154FCC2.jpeg 0B380938-1B08-474A-AA9D-048433AE35F7.jpeg I have a big piece of quarter sawn mahogany that needs to be used for something. I have built a mahogany tele already, so I started researching other options and found this. I love the idea of a solid mahogany bottom in an ES style guitar. So I decided that this will be it. I found plans on line and have started my very slow build process. I hope to be able to document it in here. Pictures of the wood and plans.
     
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    My plans are to arch the back and top. Plus arch the inside of the top. I have an LP neck built already that I plan modifying to fit. Based on my initial review it will work. The top will be maple. I have not purchased that as the templates and base will take some time.
     
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    I'll watch. I've built a couple of 335 and 175 clones, as well as chambered guitars - this will be interesting.
     
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    I've been dreaming about one of these for years!

    I'm super excited to see this build
     
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    716DDDE5-5DCD-4993-A415-84CA6045DEBD.jpeg I will start from the beginning of the process I use. I print the plans out in legal size paper. To accomplish this you download the plans in pdf, in the print option in adobe I use the poster option. Click the Cut Marks option and change it to legal size. I then use a ruler and razor blade and cut the bottom and side of the first piece of paper, then align the cut marks and drawing, then tape them together. You can also take the pdf to Staples and have it printed out, but I find this process kind of relaxing.
     
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    E5B43617-0AAE-480D-B30B-4AE9AEB23285.jpeg On to templates. I think I can accomplish this with two main body templates and since I am using the terraced routing method to arch it about 6 terracing templates. I have never arch a guitar like this, so it will be fun. My process for making templates is to cut out the body drawing and glue it to the top of 3/4 MDF. I then use the bandsaw or if you don’t have a bandsaw you can use a jigsaw to cut it out as close as you can to the drawing line. I then sand it back to the line using the OSS, or before I had an OSS I used to do it by hand.
     
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    I guess I should have stated up front that I am documenting this as if you have never built a guitar. I apologize up front if this is boring for some of you.
     
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    35EF0E98-3A2E-4CA3-8B08-3362291D15CD.jpeg 2CB3BBD7-7407-4F76-9612-01A6F00E9D9B.jpeg 56F3EB13-8C4D-4B8D-A5EC-8D894B7CE8DE.jpeg 0F5759D1-412F-4532-B278-6F73689587DD.jpeg The next template will be for the top. I used the template I just made to make the other. I sit it on top of the MDF and drill and countersink some screw holes. In this case I used the pickup areas. I then trace the template form into the mdf and remove the template. The rough cut around the trace lines. Screw the template back on and use a pattern bit to route around the template to clean up the new template. While together I mark the centerline on both. Then cut out the paper drawing you made the template for an carefully glue it on.
     
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    356CDDFD-A7A9-4787-9FB3-FEE9B23C155F.jpeg 99D53CFB-34CA-413D-AA7C-DFE810BF7306.jpeg If you cannot tell I started this build about a week ago. The terrace templates for the archtop route are next. I printed off another copy of the plan and assembled the part that had the terrace drawings. I cut the largest out and traced it onto MDF. Repeat this 6 times with the ever decreasing rings.
     
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    Then cut each one out and sanded them to the line.
     

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    524D401F-9B49-4000-BAB6-D3E6B9E64621.jpeg The odd thing, at least odd to me,is the use of a Center of Gravity mark on the rings in the drawing. See the pic. I am retired Air Force, that little mark is the CG mark to me. Not sure what they intend it to represent.
     
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    That is where I am as of 20 minutes ago. The next steps are to cut the F holes, neck and pickup pockets in the template. Then I get to work on real wood.
     
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    Sweet! I love the CS-336 body style! Will be watching.
     
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    9F97AEAE-DEFB-4D96-A6A3-53A49AD0171E.jpeg 64D58349-6E20-4B24-86A1-D9FA58E5EC8B.jpeg Did not accomplish much today. I drilled the control holes in the main template and a couple of access holes for the pickups and f holes. I also cut out the rest of the template for the bottom. Then sanded it smooth. I had to use a jigsaw for this, could have used the scroll saw, but MDF cuts well with a jigsaw.
     
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    I am concerned about the flex in the template. To combat this, I will drill guide pin holes through the template and into the guitar. The pins should stop the flexing while I finish route the inside cavities.
     
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    23CDC67B-9479-4E1C-B82E-A306E82E93E1.jpeg I forgot that I did cut the mahogany down to a more manageable size. I have ideas for the “scrap”. My planer has a 12.5 inch width limitation, so it looks like I will have to dig out the planing sled. Yes, my table saw is a POS.
     
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    No, documenting it this way is perfect. It's one of the great things about the Tele Home Depot - people can come here and learn so much just from watching builds. That's how I got started and I'll never stopped learning.
    BTW, I'm also 59 years old and also a USAF vet (assuming that's what those stripes above your bench mean!).
     
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    Thx. I also started my guitar obsession on this forum. Thought I could give back a little. I am a USAF vet.
     
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    A09679C8-0AB2-49F6-9260-0955C1814BD8.jpeg FFE8231F-06ED-434C-B784-A506FE19AE34.jpeg Decided to pull out my old router planing sled. As I stated before, I have a planer, but not quite big enough to handle a 14.5 inch piece of mahogany. I used to use this sled before I had the planer. I have always had good luck with it and actually find it relaxing. I built it for slightly smaller (tele) sized blanks, so the wood looks huge in it. I had to put in a couple of stops so I would not bang the sides. For those of you contemplating making one of these it is made from 3/4 inch MDF. There are two types that I have seen, stationary router or moving router. This one is a moving router. The key to making it is to make sure that the sled rails are as square as you can get them with the base. You need to make sure that you level the blank and make sure it will not move. I use shims to make sure the blank will not rock then screw small blocks on each end. This wood is close enough to the sides that I will shim it to stop back and forth movement. I will take pictures once I have it all setup so you can see what I mean.
     
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    86849A00-4291-4E2D-BBBA-39A98E4ADB40.jpeg I have not posted much recently. I did work on planing the mahogany down with the sled. It was 2 1/4 inch thick. I needed it right at 1 3/4, I had some work to do. I said I would take pictures and explain how I leveled it and held it in. I then remembered that I did not use blocks to hold it, but calk. You can see how I wedged it in with shims, then ran a bead of caulk on it. I used shims to level it also. And held that with caulk.
     
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