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Compressor for a guitarist that doesn't like compression?

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by BertV, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. bacongrease

    bacongrease Tele-Meister

    Mar 27, 2013
    yeah but 2 bills for a utility pedal that's reluctantly or seldom used ouch
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  2. bacongrease

    bacongrease Tele-Meister

    Mar 27, 2013
    yeah but Johnny Marr. No shame.
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  3. bacongrease

    bacongrease Tele-Meister

    Mar 27, 2013
    I'm going to give this a shot. Some say it's like the Diamond while another says it's a pale imitation. Gotta try it for myself as with any pedal. I feel like I should be learning to play new songs vs. spending time on a compressor. Also, splitting to AC4TV & Fender Rumble after a ****-ton of effects. Do I truly need comp? Maybe not for this but for playing super clean whole notes on bass yeah.

  4. BWNadeau

    BWNadeau Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 2, 2011
    Lachute, Canada
    They don't give them away for sure - that said, they are great at what they do...especially if you want some carry in the mix for slide.

  5. Obsessed

    Obsessed Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Nov 21, 2012
    That is exactly what I thought at one time. Now, I say a compressor pedal should be the most expensive pedal on your board. How perceptions can change over time.:rolleyes::lol:

  6. bacongrease

    bacongrease Tele-Meister

    Mar 27, 2013
    I have owned the Markbass tube compressor before which is almost imperceptibly lovely--certainly can't explain how or what or why the magical--but enormous. And the Fairfield comp is cool (& micro 1590a enclosure) but I'm not there yet forking out for the Diamond. Kinda like Strymon. I'm sure it's great, just not there yet.
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  7. BWNadeau

    BWNadeau Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 2, 2011
    Lachute, Canada
    Diamonds have taken a pretty big hike in prices. I remember buying my first one for around $150 CAD, brand new, and being able to grab used ones for $130 - $140. The Bearfoot PGC still pops up from time to time for $130 - $140. I haven't tried the Fairfield, but Guillaume builds great, creative pedals, and I know people who have and love the Accountant.

    I'm not using one at the moment...plenty of compression in my Valvetrain 315 as is, but if I start working some slide into some of my songs, I'll be putting a PGC or Diamond back on the board.

  8. Rich_S

    Rich_S Friend of Leo's

    Dec 29, 2006
    Potsdam, NY
    "Compressor for a guitarist who doesn't like compression" Boy have I been living THAT story for the last 10 years. Most of my favorite players have gotten brilliant sounds out of compressors:
    • Andy Summers: Dyna Comp
    • James Honeyman-Scott: CS-2
    • Jamie West-Oram: Dyna Comp or any other compressor he's ever met
    • Johnny Marr: Diamond
    I've tried lots of compressors: multiple Dyna Comps, TC, CS-2, CS-3, DOD, Xotic SP, Marshall Edward The Compressor, finally the Mooer Yellow Comp. I even had the chance to A/B the Mooer with a friend's Diamond Junior and found the Mooer to be "close enough for rock and roll": I could hear a slight difference but could dial it out with a bit of knob-tweaking. I thought for a while that the Mooer was going to be the compressor I could stand to have on my board for the long haul (since the Diamond Junior wouldn't fit in the available space).

    Recently, however, I was playing some songs, just blasting the Tele through my pedalboard and baby Marshall, jamming along with some favorite tracks. I realized that I had just as much fun and loved my sound just as much with the compressor on or off. I never get the sounds my compressor-heavy heroes do. There are good sounds to be had from compressors, but with my fingers, rig, and ears, it's just "different", not "better". So I give up. The Mooer is off the board and sold, making way for other pedals that will do something significant and worthwhile for my sound.

    So, after much study and expense my considered opinion is, the compressor for a guitarist who doesn't like compression is... no compressor at all.
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  9. bacongrease

    bacongrease Tele-Meister

    Mar 27, 2013
    But you can see how those you mentioned would require comp for consistency in new-wave/dance music (albeit bad 80's dad-dance)

  10. ES330

    ES330 TDPRI Member

    May 2, 2017
    I'm one too who hasn't bonded with compressors
    Tried so many, including the advice in previous posts...

    Still just haven't bonded with compressors...

  11. Quinn23

    Quinn23 Tele-Meister

    Mar 5, 2017
    Somerset England
    Compression is one of the hardest 'effects' to get to grips with. Its a process that takes many years to fully understand, in pedal form probably longer... I have a 5 knob BYOC Ross clone, and it stays on, it's pretty transparent and gives my sound a nice fullness, I hate overly compressed sound.

  12. Noface

    Noface TDPRI Member

    Feb 27, 2015
    Los Angeles, CA
    I use the keeley compressor which is my favorite so far. It’s best use (for me) is for funky/clean chords/lines that require heavy strumming, pseudo bass slap riffs or chicken-picking solos. When playing with heavy gain, I turn off the compressor since gain compresses the signal on its own.

  13. mabley123

    mabley123 Friend of Leo's

    Aug 21, 2011
    ashland kentucky
    I like my Mayer 615 compressor/limiter. Its very clean, clear, and doesn't limit the dynamics at all. Runs full 48v, and is based off of the Mayer RM58 which was/is used in many recording studios. Incl Electric Lady, Atlantic, A&R, Record Plant, and others.

    API Tranzformer GT is also killer, and has built in EQ.

  14. kellybluz

    kellybluz TDPRI Member

    Mar 25, 2011
    southern oregon
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  15. golfnut

    golfnut Tele-Afflicted

    Jan 15, 2008
    I just ordered this one. I got away from using compressors for a while as I was using a lot of lower wattage vox voiced amps with lower efficient speakers and felt the compressor was too much. Now that I'm in to a higher powered blackface style amp I think a bit of compression could help. I ordered the ego mainly because of the blend knob. I ordered the Tumnus deluxe with it so we'll see how that goes.
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  16. Pixies2005

    Pixies2005 TDPRI Member Silver Supporter

    Jan 14, 2017
    I ended up trading my Diamond Compressor and buying a Barber Compact Tone Press.
    So far I'm loving the Tone Press, the blend knob is what set's it apart from other one's I've tried.
    I can dial in as little or as much compression as I want and I have as someone somewhere described it 'an overdrive for my clean tone'.

  17. 4pickupguy

    4pickupguy Poster Extraordinaire

    May 12, 2013
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Paralell, multi band compression is all the benefits of compression with none of the drawbacks... Look into the TC Hyper Gravity if you hate the squish, transient kill and unbalanced thing.
    I could not live without mine.

  18. dpking

    dpking TDPRI Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    United States
    The old CP 101 gives a warm boost, a slight bass cut and is not squash. I like mine alot.

  19. golfnut

    golfnut Tele-Afflicted

    Jan 15, 2008
    I use the ego the same way. I've got the blend at about 10 oclock. sustain at 10 attack at 11. Tone past noon. Gives just enough snap without squashing things.

  20. CyrusF

    CyrusF Tele-Meister

    Nov 12, 2016
    Definitely tweak the SP before getting anything new. It's a more versatile unit, I think, than the front panel betrays, but if you have to drop it for something else, check out the Keeley GC-2 Limiting Amplifier. It's a compressor/limiter, instead of a compressor/sustainer. More of a subtle, studio-style unit than your standard guitar comp.

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