Bullet thoughts

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  1. jdolecek48

    jdolecek48 TDPRI Member

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    I have been looking closely at the squire bullet strat HT guitar. What are your thoughts? I read some critisicr about how people don't like the bullet guitars because of ceramic pickups I don't know much about pick up so that's why I thought I would ask you could people.on those HT guitars the paint looks badass but then again how s guitar looks will not affect the sound.....I used to be a metal guy but before I put the guitar down before I got disabled I was playing a lot of blues stuff so that's why I'm leaning towards a strat anyway to let me know what you guys think
     
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    Nickadermis Friend of Leo's

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    HT ? Not sure what that means but I love my Bullet Strat HSS. I ordered some Guitar Madness pickups to replace the stock ones. I still haven’t replaced them. They aren’t that bad, the Buck r Bridge is a little hot for my taste but not so much so that I really care :)


    It is my favorite guitar neck that I own. It isn’t pretty or flashy but it is satiny smooth on the back and glassy smooth on the fretboard.

    If HT means hard tail ? That would be ok too I think :)
     
  3. 3-Chord-Genius

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    People have an issue with ceramic pickups simply because they're ceramic pickups. Not based on tone, but because they have "ceramic" in the name. There is nothing wrong with them.
     
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  4. acrylicsuperman

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    Bullets can be great for the price. There is nothing wrong with the ceramic pickups, though I have seen bullets with pickups that were hit and miss with me. My old number 1 strat used to have the neck and middle pickup from a bullet. They can be quite usable.

    I personally have 2 complaints about the bullets though. The tuners on them are not great and there is no drop in replacement for them. Wouldn't hurt to ream them holes or have a tech do it and upgrade them with something else. The other complaint is with the hard tail version. Since the strings load through the back of the bridge, sometimes, strings will lift the saddles off the bridge and cause problems. If this happens, guitar fetish offers a cheap replacement bridge with offset saddles that will remove that problem and it also drops right in. I'll link it in a moment.

    EDIT: Here is the link to the bridge.

    https://www.guitarfetish.com/Top-Mount-Hardtail-bridge-Fits-Telesreg-Squierreg-51-Chrome_p_759.html
     
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  5. Michael A.

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    You probably want to play a Bullet and at least check out the neck width at the nut. They are pretty small, even for somebody with average sized hands. I own 3 built in the 2000s and all are like this, measuring about 1.58". I have some 80s Korean and Japanese ones that have somewhat wider nuts, closer to 1.68". It seems like a small difference, but it definitely noticeable when playing.

    Pickups can be readily upgraded later, neck width, not so much!
     
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    I have a 2010 Chinese made Bullet Strat SSS and can't fault it. I've no complaints about the sound of the pickups, sound fine to me. I have done a personal "sit down in a music store and play it and a $5000 (Australian Dollars) Fender Strat through a Deluxe Reverb" and could not pick any real diference in the sound. I actually prefer the Bullet to play as it's neck suits my hands better. The only mods I have done to the Bullet are: lined the cavities and pickguard with foil which did quieten it; decked the bridge, I don't use the Tremelo at all anyway.
     
  7. jdolecek48

    jdolecek48 TDPRI Member

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    With the tuners in mind, saying they are not the greatest does that mean it has trouble staying in tune?
     
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    Mine has no trouble staying in tune.
     
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  9. jdolecek48

    jdolecek48 TDPRI Member

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    Would I be better off getting an esp m50? I just want to get the best buy for my purchase. Since I'm disabled I can't go try anything g out so I have to go on reviews and your opinions to make the best choice....I either have to buy new or go to guitar centers used site and purchase from there.....but then I have to pay for shipping but sadly I can't afford a setup so I might have to order used and hope it's setup.
     
  10. acrylicsuperman

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    I've had 3 bullets in my time. 2 of them tuned fine. One was a little clunky. I figured it was the nut, but it ended up being the tuners. For the money, I can't complain and if you have problems, you can order a set of cheap economy tuners to replace them with or at least the tuner that is messed up.

    EDIT: if you are that worried about the tuners though, you could always spend a little more for an HSS Affinity.
     
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  11. longbow

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    I just purchased a Bullet Tele from MF. It is used but it was very inexpensive. So sprung for it. I've put together a couple of parts tele's over the past couple of years so figured I'd give this one a try and see how it shakes out. The only experience with a Bullet Squier I've had is with a neck off a strat I bought years ago. It is an absolutely gorgeous neck that I put on an unknown black strat body that was loaded. Worked out great so I figured why not. With this Bullet Tele I'll upgrade the bridge which I already ordered and I'll get some Standard American PUPS for it along with a 4 way switch. So there ya go.
     
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    One of my friends had one of the first Bullet Teles from way back, it was thrown together with whatever parts they had on hand and for the cheapest they could make it. It had a ply body, the bridge was a small extension of the metal pickguard that was bent up and drilled out to hold the saddle screws. Should have been a POS, but I was astounded that it had an incredible fat, slightly rounded V-shaped neck, one of the best necks I've ever played, and despite the obvious ply body, sounded great. It really made me question all this talk about one piece vs. multi-piece solid bodies, weight relief, and tone woods. With a crappy plywood body, some cheap pickups that had white covers with no exposed polepieces (probably left over from Duo Sonics or something), a jerry-rigged bridge (if it could be called that), and cheap as hell, with that awesome v-neck on it, it sounded and played great. I wanted to buy it from him, but he didn't want to let go of it. I think those were still made in the U.S. back then, just as cheap as possible, but it's a guitar I'll never forget. It was red with a Tele headstock, I don't know where that v-neck came from, none of the other Fenders at that time had a neck like that.
    Al
     
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    Received my Bullet Tele. First off for what I paid for the guitar it is a very good deal. Neck and tuners are perfect. No sharp edges, great action on the tuners(no grit or slop when tuning) and it stays in tune. I am going to replace the pick ups with something a step above but nothing super expensive. I'll also upgrade the electronics along with the nut just because the high E string isn't positioned correctly along the fret board, just a tad to close. Electronics cause I want to try a 5 way switch is all. I have the Surf Green model. String through body which for the price along with the skunk stripe how can one go wrong. thanks
     
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    The Indonesian guitars are quite high manufacturing quality. Fender specs the parts and cuts to be what they are.
    The neck carve "Thin-C" might be too thin for some -- mostly it's the back shoulders of the neck that get carved off so the circumference is important, the width and depth numbers listed don't tell the story.

    Ceramic pickups are sometimes better sounding than the famous Alnico (I have some of each). Many experienced players, having listened to the 'gotta get alnico' marketing their whole life get seriously surprised when playing a ceramic pickup guitar. Pickup height setup is important, and easy to dial in as you have experience with that guitar.

    Hard tail guitars will stay in tune much better than those with trems. Trems tend to distract playing.

    The trapezoid tuners on the Bullet models are fine for staying in tune, make sure you always 'tune up' your guitar and if you overshoot then drop lower and tune up to pitch again. If you try to hit pitch on the way down, you'll create slack in the guitar and the first strum knocks it out.
    Keep the factory size strings (9s) and you won't have any nut binding problems -- that can be fixed but that's a source of tuning problems that often get lumped on top of the tuners.

    The other option are the Epiphone Special IIs -- I find I like the chunkier necks on them more than the Squiers.

    One other thing to think about is how you are playing. If you are forced to play semi-reclined vs sitting more upright with the guitar on your thigh, a guitar with round body edges like a Strat may want to slip and slide more than one with a square-ish body like a Tele or the Epiphone Specials. You can use a strap and that can help though so if the curves on the Strat are visually inspiring you can still handle it.

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    Ahhh, you don’t want to know what I think... I don’t know enough about them but how about Rob from Fret Tech / Cavalier Pickups? He probably has a better idea. Here’s one he hot rodded earlier last year: http://www.tdpri.com/threads/bullet-makeover.784609/

    EDIT: Spoiler alert. He likes them.
     
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    I recently bought the surf green Tele Bullet and really like it. The neck was what won me over in the store, fairly chunky and really smooth. Plus, the price was right. I expected to want to replace electronics once I got it home, but really don't see a need to. It sounds very nice. Just a tweak of the truss rod and lowered a couple saddles and away I went.
     
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    I like ceramic pickups. I wouldn’t have any issues with pickups.

    My only concern on the Bullet level Squires would be tuning stability. I call it rubber neck syndrome. I’ve found that some Squire necks can be finicky going from a warm house to a very cold car and back into a warm place. It will soon be below zero here so it’s areal concern here. I’ve never had neck and tuning stability trouble with a Mexi or USA Fender but I have had trouble with Squires. The Bullet is at the low end of the Squiers. If a retailer can sell a Bullet at $130 then they pay half that ($65) so Fender is probably building the guitar (parts and labor) for $35 in Indonesia.

    My 2 cents.....just my opinion.
     
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    Indonesian Squiers have tropical heritage. They prefer warmth. Keep 'em cozy.

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