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Build #3, the c...bass!

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by zorgzorg2, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. epizootics

    epizootics TDPRI Member

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    Kudos for the Camembert shot...We seem to export this one all over the world! Mind you, it's actually OK for an industrial Camembert.

    Looking really nice, that walnut is gorgeous. Is that all Swedish timber? Most of the walnut I work with in France in my cabinet-repairing workshop tends to have much less visible growth rings...
     
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  2. hemingway

    hemingway Friend of Leo's

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    That's some nice wood
     
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  3. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    Thanks! I'm actually French, moved to Sweden about 10 years ago, so I know my camembert the real good one is hard to find and expensive here.

    About the walnut, it's American, as most of the timber they sell in my wood shop. (I wonder...) And walnut is difficult to grow here, it's a bit cold

    So I'm going the camembert way on this bass, called the Camembass! I will use stripes from the wooden box to fill the fret slots (it's going to be fretless).
     

  4. R. Stratenstein

    R. Stratenstein Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Great build, Martin! The bracelet is beautiful! How did you cut and smooth it out?

    And I’m more of a Brie man when it comes to soft-ripened basses. :lol::lol:

    I’m impressed with your resolve, working in your “roofless workshop” in Sweden, in the winter time, and it’s really looking good.
     
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  5. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    Thanks Rick!

    The bracelet was cut out with a large drill bit, the kind you use to make holes for wall sockets. (like this one https://goo.gl/images/mDfVqw)
    I had two sizes, 70 and 80 mm, so I just drilled two concentric holes. From there on, it was just sanding. Applied some avocado oil for the finish, and voilà

    Brie can be good too of course, just make sure to choose the runny ones...

    About the shop, well it's not that cold yet, still around the water freezing point so it's fine. As they say here, there is no bad weather, just bad clothes. And, to be honest, I do have a space in the house where I'm aloud to work as long as no dust is generated. So eg routing with a vacuum cleaner attached to the router is tolerated by hq outdoor activities include sanding by hand, (the random orbital sander is also vacuum compatible) sawing, and everything smelly, like finishing with chemicals (hence my recent tests with shellac, more on that later).
     
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  6. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    I got a little time to work on the neck this afternoon, so I routed the truss rod groove.
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    Next is cutting/routing the neck, starting with the fretboard...
     
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  7. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    Finalised the truss rod groove with chisels, and cut the neck to shape... One step at the time... 1514934997960.jpg 1514935005248.jpg
     
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  8. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    By the way, a couple of thickness questions: how thick should the headstock be? And what thickness should the heel, respectively the neck at the nut, be? (that is without the fretboard) Atm it is 22mm which should be enough, right?
     

  9. Peltogyne

    Peltogyne Tele-Afflicted

    Oct 29, 2012
    Northern California
    I just ran my calipers over a number of headstocks and got .55 to .645 of an inch. So you're well over that. If the tuner you use has a screw on bushing it will have a range limit for thickness.
     
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  10. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    Thanks. So I'm a bit thick atm
     

  11. Peltogyne

    Peltogyne Tele-Afflicted

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    You could recess the bushings/washers to the thickness you need. It's a slick look and may lower the strings enough to reduce the need for string trees.
     

  12. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    I've angled the neck at 11 degrees, which I thought means I don't need string trees?
    But nice idea with the recess. I still have to slim the headstock a bit though, I don't want to have a neck dive problem...
     

  13. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    So today I got a bit done on different necks, including the one at hand. First I made a copy of the neck template:
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    Using my home made router sled
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    Then taped the headstock template to the headstock using double sided tape and used my router with sled to copy the shape to the headstock 1515020232640.jpg
    As you can see, cherry burns easily!
    Putting the neck in a stable position for routing isn't easy with an angled neck, how do you guys do that? I hade be creative... 1515020337939.jpg

    But I got what I wanted eventually 1515020371083.jpg

    Next will be routing the neck sides and thicknessing. Planning on 21mm for the heel (neck pocket is 17mm deep) and 14mm for the nut, or is that too thin?
     
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  14. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    So today, I routed the neck edges to the template, and it seems to fit 1515084597436.jpg

    I went on and tried putting fret slot fillers (still with the camembert box). Trying different methods, It looks like using my regular fret saw and sanding the camembert wood a little thinner works best (lowest on last picture)
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  15. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    Finished the day with sawing the fret slots and filling them. The wood of the camembert box is now all used .
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    And here a side by side comparison with a bit of the same board with some shellac on it. 1515109335738.jpg
     
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  16. Peltogyne

    Peltogyne Tele-Afflicted

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    Yes, I'm not paying close enough attention. :)
     
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  17. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    I got some time today to work some more on this project, and went on to radius the fretless fretboard (fingerboard?). I was considering building a router jig for that, but putting a router on such a thin piece of wood scared me, so my cowardice led me to do it by hand. Took an hour, sanded to 240 grit, and it looks good
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  18. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    Thicknessed the neck today: 1515447112664.jpg
    Leaving wood for the volute
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    And then went on to glue the neck. No pics of that, phone was out of power. I will take one before I remove the clamps.
     

  19. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    À propos gluing the fretboard, I put all the clamps I had there, but I'm still unhappy with the applied pressure not being even. But iirc, I saw here someone using som kind of long elastic band and wound it around the neck and fretboard. Anyone got a clue on what material that is, and I get it? Thanks!
     

  20. zorgzorg2

    zorgzorg2 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    So here is the pic: 1515532316489.jpg

    Now I got a problem, obviously I missed that the fb was no really flat on the bottom, so I have a little space all along both sides of the neck about half a millimetre. Most of it has glue in it but there are some gaps, so it's not really nice to look at.

    So some questions I have now: will the neck still be structurally stable? It looks like it is from me pulling on the fb, but what do you guys say? If it is, next question is how to I mask this? I was considering making a little groove at the limit between the fb and the neck, and maybe fill it with something (wood dust? Pigments?)
    Any idea?
    Help...

    Martin
     

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