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Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by guitarmoron, Apr 29, 2019.
A Rat. Frisell, Abercrombie...
And Marc Ribot, though I think he uses a King of Tone now.
The OP only mentioned Wes Montgomery.
I have to think that this is a trolling expedition. If I am incorrect, the OP has my apology.
Jazz is NOT a tone, Jazz is NOT a guitar, Jazz is NOT an amp, Jazz is NOT a pedal....PERIOD!! You want to play jazz or any genre, there is only ONE way.....learn how to play whatever guitar or amp you have, then play what you like...there is NO magic, you can't buy it, learn how to play!!!!
Yeah, I know, but he also asked about pedals, and Montgomery didn’t use them.
Like @Wally I suspect we’re being taken for a ride here …
If not: the answer depends in part on what amp the pedal will sit in front of, in part on why you need a pedal in the first place, and in part on your realizing that Wes is on of the least reproducible guitarists in history (not to mention, an absolute technical and musical monster…).
Besides: a “Peavey hollowbody” is a bit generic. Wes used L5s with one humbucker in the neck so anything similar & good quality may help, anything else not really.
Not sure if that is a non pedal comment, but if it is:Tell that to Scofield!
That's what Wes would be using if he were alive today.
He told me that in a dream that he had.
We need a "Wes in a pedal" pedal. I'd call it "Unit 7"
Keep your 100$, it is not enough for a pair of Wes Ears !
Octave pedal and low-mids booster.
I accept your apology, I am not trolling, this is my only avenue to interact with musicians.....I don't take lessons, nor play in a group or go to clubs
Wes in a box:
That being the case, let me be very literal, sincere, and frank with you; a pedal "for jazz" is something you don't need AT ALL. Whatever amp you are playing through almost certainly will have enough variable control of the sound to get you what you need.
Learn those chords and techniques. Tons of great tutorials out there for free on youtube
Get in touch with Devi Ever. She makes the best Jazz pedals out there.
OP, these guys think they're being funny.
There are so many things you can do before you spend your $100: roll off your volume and tone on the guitar, work the controls of your amp, give your guitar a nice set of flatwounds (Thomastick 12/50 will do real fine !), change your pick, change the way you hold your pick, let go of your pick and use your fingers for comping,... After that you can invest in an EQ pedal and a compressor that you can find new (or used) for those $100 (I have an Artec 8 band SE-EQ -35 €- that's OK for that job and I just bought for 29 € a TC Electronic Forcefield compressor that is perfect for my needs). But in the end, as others have said, there is not a "jazz tone" but many, and only you know the sound that's in your head that you want to hear...
Octave pedals are only a rough approximation to what Wes is doing. He gets a percussive chunk to his octaves that a pedal doesn't provide.
I also don't get all the recommendations for a compression pedal -- is Wes chikkun pickun? I don't see many compressors on jazz pedalboards.
Is it a volume issue? Like you can't get that dark, full tone at the volumes you play?
To my ear, the Supro Drive pedal with the Drive off sounds very "jazz" to me for some reason.