Brazilian rosewood?

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  1. fernandomp

    fernandomp TDPRI Member

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    Hi, im new on this forum.
    I was looking for a new acoustic and i saw a handmade guitar with a beautiful rosewood back and sides. Im not an expert, in most of the cases im not sure to difference brazilian and indian rosewood, but in this case, there is a whiteis part in the back. It looks to me like brazilian, but i don't know if this white parts could be in a indian rosewood.
    Sorry for mi bad english and thanks in advance.
    Here some pics
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    P Thought Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

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    I can't help you on the identification, but that's pretty wood. Welcome to the forum.
     
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    I'd go over to to the UMGF website and do a search.
     
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    clintj Friend of Leo's

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    +1 on the Acoustic Guitar Forum.

    The light parts are sapwood, the outer part of the board from the outer part of the tree near the bark. I'm not sure on the exact species, but the dark part looks a bit light for Brazilian rosewood to me. Brazilian is usually chocolate brown, and can have a slight purple color in spots. This is the headstock on my old Yairi, which is Brazilian:

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    Two good clues for Brazilian are smell and price. First, it has a slight smell of flowers, which is where the name rosewood came from. Second, it's listed on the CITES treaty as restricted. You can't buy, sell, trade, export, or import it unless it was cut prior to 1992 and you have the paperwork to prove it. This makes it very expensive and scarce.

    I'm kind of thinking cocobolo might be what that guitar is. The brown and cream colors are about right for that wood.
     
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    hi fern, theres a few things that I find 'unusual' about this guitar -
    1: the lower bout is very large compared to the overall size / length - odd design which makes me wonder about the rest of the design in particular structurally.
    2: the sides are 'slab' sawn and are liable to 'cup' meaning distort and crack..
    3: It could be any one of many 'rosewoods' (Dalbergia) and the most reliable way to tell is - smell - this would mean rubbing the inside with sandpaper and smelling the dust.
    It should smell like - hey - roses - like sweet spicy / cinnamon - thats why it's called rose - wood. Most of the Brazilian rosewood ever used was used in the perfume industry.
    good luck
     
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    Hard to be sure from a low res photo but it doesn't look like Brazilian to me. There are lots of Rosewoods variants other than Indian and Brazilian used by smaller makers and this could be one of a few different types but I think Pau Ferro (also known as Santos or Bolivian Rosewood) could be a definite possibility with this one.
     
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    Looks like Cocobollo to me, which isn't bad thing considering the issues with Brazilian RW these days.
     
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    I would also concur, I would say it's Cocobolo as well.
     
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    I don't think it's either Brazliian rosewood or Cocobolo. Both are usually darker--cocobolo has a lot more red in it. Just my opinion: its some other tropical hardwood
     
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