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Blackguard V-neck?

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by oldtelefart, May 13, 2017.

  1. oldtelefart

    oldtelefart Tele-Meister

    I have a 1980's MIJ blackguard copy that I bought because of the soft-V neck, perfect for me. The only other guitars I've played with that shape were a Clapton Strat ('57 neck?) and a 70's Yamaha acoustic, which apparently was a copy of a Martin.

    Did any blackguard-era Teles actually have that soft-V shape?
    Experts please weigh in with some facts, I'm curious.
     
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  2. petebrown

    petebrown Tele-Meister

    210
    Sep 22, 2003
    No. Cal.
    In blackguards I've played the neck shapes are all over the place, but often pretty chunky and rounded. I did play a broadcaster with slight v-ing, but in my experience the more v shaped necks became more predominant in the mid 50's- maybe 56ish?
    Then around 59 they start slimming-
     

  3. MickM

    MickM Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Not sure if I recall correctly but I seem to remember in the "Blackguard Book" a list(serial #'s) of a bunch of necks with a description including the board radius ( a bunch of 9.5") back profile and nut width.
     
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  4. Kingpin

    Kingpin Friend of Leo's

    Mar 16, 2003
    Here
    Musikraft, manufacturers of Tele replacement necks, has a page loaded with blackguard neck specs taken from various serial numbers from 1950-54.

    It lists neck profile, radius, and nut width associated with each serial number.

    https://musikraft.com/cmspage.php?page_id=41
     
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  5. Robert H.

    Robert H. Friend of Leo's

    Jul 28, 2005
    N. Cal.
    Yes. Many Blackguards have the large soft V neck. I have a '53 with one.
     

  6. Flakey

    Flakey Friend of Leo's

    One late 52 Esquire I played had a V neck. From 50 to 53 they were all over the board (it depended who had that job to sand the necks that day).
     

  7. bignote

    bignote Tele-Meister

    429
    Aug 10, 2009
    Okinawa, Japan
    I have a Broadcaster replica that was built using a musikcraft neck. Massively chunky, serious V neck. Totally cool! And, of course, spec'd from the blackguard book.
     

  8. old crow

    old crow TDPRI Member

    74
    Feb 22, 2009
    Vantage
    this is very interesting info.
    is there any initials on the necks with
    a V shape that might indicate any particular
    person that may be responsible for the V shape ?
     

  9. Troubleandahalf

    Troubleandahalf Tele-Holic

    790
    Jun 2, 2011
    Austin, TX
    And you can order yourself one of those necks to those dimensions. That's total awesome.
     

  10. Flakey

    Flakey Friend of Leo's

    The one that I play was from "T.G." Mr. Tadeo Gomez

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  11. old crow

    old crow TDPRI Member

    74
    Feb 22, 2009
    Vantage
    Thanks Flakey...Does your 52 T.G. actually have a V shaped neck ?
     

  12. Robert H.

    Robert H. Friend of Leo's

    Jul 28, 2005
    N. Cal.
    Tadio Gomez initialed my '53 neck.
     

  13. old crow

    old crow TDPRI Member

    74
    Feb 22, 2009
    Vantage
    So there's proof of one !
    I think if more of these show up, no matter who initialed them,
    will indicate V necks were around right from the start and that
    Leo probably designed them.
     

  14. Robert H.

    Robert H. Friend of Leo's

    Jul 28, 2005
    N. Cal.
    I stand corrected: Tadeo initialed the neck pocket--the neck has only the date...


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