Beware: Don't Buy Gator Frameworks Guitar Hanger

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  1. Chuckster

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    When I bought 14 of these guitar hangers, my biggest concern was stability. Instead, I just learned the hard way about their foam reacting with, and essentially melting, the finish on my Ric 330-12 FireGlo.

    Don't buy Gator Frameworks hangers!

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    Oh man... Thanks for the heads up. I'm angry for you. Have you called them?
     
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    Thanks for the warning. I’d be furious. I’m sorry for the damage to your guitar.
     
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    Guitars belong in cases......

    Guitar Hangers - well, what goes up must go down - just ask my dad about his 1951 Gibson LG-1 that cracked in half when that law came full circle!

    Guitar Stands - They can eat finishes on certain guitars based on what the padding is made of.

    Don't put a guitar you care about the wall or on a stand!
     
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    Sorry for your loss. Terrible result
     
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    Bummer. Happened to me too.
     
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    I've also seen wear caused by inserting/removing a guitar from those wall hangers - specially with the Hercules types.

    I was saving up for a Gibson J-185 and went to the shop to check it out again after saving / researching for a few months. When I went back the finish had been worn on the neck where the hanger had rubbed. I tried to get the guy to knock down the price based on that - He wouldn't budge and I walked away empty handed.
     
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    Man I'm really sorry to see that.

    You didn't know that beforehand?

    Any nitro neck I have gets cotton cloth wrapped around the hangers.

    It's not the brand that's your issue. Even if a manufacturer said it was safe I still wouldn't trust 'em. Tinfoil hat engaged.
     
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    Man, that SUCKS!

    I'd be giving that company a phone call...

    Tell them their damn hanger has permanently scarred one of you children and you will be expecting full compensation for damages.

    Seriously though, get ahold of them, and see what they say.

    Sorry bout the guitar, and thanks for the heads up.

    Keep us posted on any reparations, I'm curious what they say/do.
     
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    WTF???!!!!

    To the Ric, no less??!!!
     
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    ouch
     
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    No effect on my other Ric... strange.
     
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    Sorry to see the damage.

    Two rules:
    -No nitro guitars
    -Cover hanger foam/pegs with cotton sleeves (cut work glove fingers off or get a friend to sew covers for you)

    Easiest is no nitro.

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    You make an excellent point, but people pay good money for authentic reliquing (sp?). :)
     
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    That sucks. Sorry to hear it. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    I agree. Consumer protections were always pretty awful in the US, but these days they're practically non-existent. We're all guinea pigs. I wouldn't ingest Billy Bob's vitamin formula if Billy Bob offered it to me free with a set of Ginzu knives.
     
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    A company like Thomann mention this when you look at their stands
    It's funny , no one blames the guitar manufacturers for using inferior laquer , LOL......
     
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    Ouch, that hurts! I’m sorry for your loss.

    And that is very odd, since Rickenbackers doesn’t have nitro but some sort of poly ”conversion varnish” AFAIK. I’d do a reclamation. I’ve been using K&M’s and no problems so far.
     
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    I was laying down and the answer came to me: Your other Ric is a 6-string, not 12 (because who has two 12-string Rics?) and therefore not as heavy. So there was not as much force on the hanger and not the same reaction.
     
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    If instructions were included, I would assume they said the same.

    IIRC, based on past discussions I've read, Ricks use "conversion varnish." Not sure exactly what this is, but it sounds close enough to being possibly reactive that I wouldn't hang them on such things without doing more research.

    I looked up "'conversion varnish' vs urethane," and it appears to be a relatively fragile type of catalyzed finish. One of the first hits had the following passage (emphasis added):

    "Conversion varnishes come up short in some areas. When comparing its product to conversion finishes, a leading manufacturer of polyurethane coatings reports the disadvantages of conversion varnishes include limited build possibilities; limited chemical resistance; UV instability; existence of difficult, sensitive catalyst ratios; poor re-coat windows; difficultly in touch-ups; an inability to achieve a wet look, high gloss or vivid colors; and formaldehyde content."

    It's a shame that Rick doesn't spec their finish types on each model page on their Website.

    It is wise practice to place non-reactive (e.g. cotton) wraps on such hangers as a matter of course.
     
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