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Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Hoodster, Dec 3, 2017.
While I like the melody maker and it's price, another solid option is the Gibson Less Paul Special Double Cut, which sells for $579.99 at Sam Ash. It's "2015 new" and has a warranty.
Les Paul Studio Satin.
The value depends on what you want. I don't care how cheap a LP Jr. is if I need/want a guitar with a neck pickup as well as a bridge pickup.
In reality the best value is the guitar you want at the best available market price. If you buy used with careful research and patience chances
are you will be able to sell it for almost what you paid for it in which case you're essentially renting it for free for as long as you want it.
Gibson Epiphone Les Paul Special Model II ... Used $25-$50 range.
Random internet photo below that shows the typical way they did it for a while. This one apparently has a tuner upgrade.
Second photo is my Epi LP Junior with this headstock and truss cover layout. I flipped the truss cover over so it shows white on top since I liked the color offset, but it says 'Gibson' underneath. I paid $15 for mine. Playing value is huge but resale value maybe $40.
Because of the Gibson name on that cover I have seen people list these on CL for $250+ and of course the guitars sit there for months.
Bought an Epi LP Jr. and stripped the paint off to refinish - it was plywood.
Some older Epiphone Jrs and Specials were plywood, but I heard that the newer ones are Poplar.
Not cheapest, but best value: used Historic.
Yup, unless you're buying at a vintage/boutique shop in Nashville, in which case you can almost get a new 2017 Historic for the same price!
Of course, I still maintain late 60's, 70's, and 80's Gibson was chock full of dynamite guitars which are very underrated by some.
Best value Gibsons would be any of the stripped down models with the cheap finishes that sell for $700 - $800 new. Lots of models of Les Pauls and SGs that they've done over the years. And I'll agree with the Melody Makers too. Always seemed like a ton of guitar for the price.
As for Epiphone, I've had three; all required some serious upgrading to make them reliable, giggable instruments. Junk electronics, hardware, and pickups. Good necks though.
I agree. The VOS Historic plain top. Can be had for around $2300 to $2500. Which is almost a grand less than a patterned finish. Plays the same, sounds the same, in some cases better than the $3500 and up versions. Like going back to 1958. Solid body, no weight relief. I have an R8 which I found after searching for almost a year.
I may have just sold it.
2015 LP Special. Lacquer finish, Grovers, coil cut, Burst buckers-Sold for $625 and it took me a while. I'm just not a Les Paul guy. I've had 3 LPs and never kept any of them longer than a year.
Yep, I have a 54 reissue. Also cheaper than the flame top ones.
Over here you can get a Midtown Standard for about 6-700 UKP
IMO the SG faded Series is a bargain of a guitar. They feel and play great, and a nice used one can be found for well under $500.
Anything w/ a headstock repair, I've gotten several faded "specials" w/ almost invisible repairs for as little as $300. A well done repair is stronger than the surrounding wood, and it is more likely that the guitar will snap elsewhere before the original break will reopen
For vintage, the best deals are the L6S and then the marauders and other off-models.
In my humble opinion the SG Standard is by far the most value for money. For less than a strat and almost half price you get the works. Gloss finish, bindings on the neck and a hardcase.
But yeah, the SG faded and specials are also sick deals on the used market and I grab one without hesitation if I didn't have the extra cash for a standard.
The best value Gibson IMHO is a true Les Paul (Std or Trad. but not studio) which you can get for great prices in the used market... probably less than some folks pay for new Studios. There is no comparison.