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Best patch cables?

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by SMurphy28, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. modernartmuseum

    modernartmuseum TDPRI Member

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    george L's are good but just be careful when moving them about and stuff
     

  2. czech-one-2

    czech-one-2 Friend of Leo's

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    george L's

    ''george L's are good but just be careful when moving them about and stuff ''


    yeah,thats my point.who wants cables that you have to be carefull of ?
    and i never understood the pros of george l's quick repair factor?
    so,you are you going to get out the cable cutters,and re-screw a new connector on in between songs?that is,if you have time to locate the offending cable :eek: :?:
     

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  3. marc sosnoff

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    george l's are good cables i used them for years and years i found from time to time i would have to make a new connections i have moved to evindance cables and they do sound better for the long cables from guitar to amp lenghts on the short patch cables i really cant hear any change of tone lately many have changed the jacks plugs to hard soldering jacks when the connection goes bad its a quick fix if not soldered

    all you need is a knife and small screw driver

    marc
     

  4. Jenix

    Jenix Tele-Holic

    The livewire elites they sell at guitar center are good because they don't hesitate to replace them on the spot if they fail. No packaging or receipts need and they're only five dollars a piece
     

  5. sugarinthegourd

    sugarinthegourd TDPRI Member

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    I'm through with solderless cables. Unreliable and even when they're passing signal, they don't always pass it well. The whole concept is bunk. If you can solder you can make great patch cables with Canare cable & G&H plugs for under $6 apiece including all parts & shipping.
     

  6. jvanhorn

    jvanhorn Tele-Meister

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    I use livewire 6" patch cords and Ernie Ball cables. No problems. Everything has worked just fine for over a year now. I don't know what else you could ask for--at a reasonable price also.
     

  7. modernartmuseum

    modernartmuseum TDPRI Member

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    I am having no probs with the George l's so far, they seem to give enough space to fit another pedal on my board to which is good
     

  8. Montana_Dawg

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    The problem with screw-in connectors is that over time they are prone to oxidation between the conductor and the terminal. Also, the wires are more prone to break.

    Developing a good soldering technique will alleviate most of the problems. Not all, because even soldered connections are prone to some damage, especially in guitar cables that are continuously stressed.

    As for quality, the main concern for a guitar cable is capacitance. The cure for that is to buy a cable that is COMPLETELY shielded, as in braided shielding. The cheap ones that have a few strands of copper twisted around the conductor do not work well.

    There is a lot of misinformation out there, even from so-called pros in guitar shops. One of the biggest is "low resistance". This is bunk because it doesn't matter. Of course, having an open cable is not good, but having a few ohms, or even a few hundred ohms resistance in a guitar cable is not that big of deal since the input impedance to the amp or a pedal is significantly higher.

    There is no real reason to spend a lot of money for guitar cables. Just find the right construction cables, and take the time to learn how to repair them if you intend on doing the repairs yourself. Knowledge is power.
     

  9. modernartmuseum

    modernartmuseum TDPRI Member

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    this gold end rubbish does not make a difference at all
     

  10. czech-one-2

    czech-one-2 Friend of Leo's

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    gold or brass ends...................no
    4 % silver wbt solder.....................maybe
    but i bet 11 guage and his vintage radio shack rainbow cable isn't suffering any significant tone loss. maybe eric johnson would disagree though!
     

  11. sapi

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    I'm using George L's in my new big pedalboard. Everything is passed from underneath and mounted to avoid movement. So far so good.
     

  12. Johnir

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    To be honest, I don't think I ever can hear the difference between different cables....

    I've used George L's for years, but have after a while experienced that the solderless plugs caused crackling and has to be retightened.
    This is really irritating during a gig to try to find the right crackling cable.

    Thus I've started replacing them with Lava ELC patchcables. (Not the solderless kind). They're extremely solid (and expencive:()
    Do they sound better... no idea... :rolleyes:
     

  13. czech-one-2

    czech-one-2 Friend of Leo's

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    george l's

    this is pretty amazing to me.i replaced about 9 monster patch cables with my soldered george l's cable.and there is a noticable high end enhancement.
    my strat is more sparkly and crisp sounding. no joke!
    if i can hear it,you tele twangers will certainly hear it too. i never thought cable could make a noticable difference in tone,and my monster cables were not cheap,but hearing is believing.
    montana dawg has a good point on capacitance. i looked at some belden cable that i had.the shielding around the outside was pretty sparse.in comparison,the george l's are completly braid shielded. the inner or 'hot' wire looks the same on both.so the shielding is where its at for low capacitance.

    bk
     
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  14. modernartmuseum

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    Which canare cable?
     

  15. modernartmuseum

    modernartmuseum TDPRI Member

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    I have heard van damme cable and neutrik jacks are a good combo

    any suggestions

    my george L's failed the other week so I am stripping my whole board and starting over
     

  16. czech-one-2

    czech-one-2 Friend of Leo's

    Oct 3, 2008
    Prague
    ''my george L's failed the other week so I am stripping my whole board and starting over ''

    modernartmuseum,if you can solder i would reccomend just getting some regular angled jacks and using your existing george l's cable.its working out well for me.
    bk
     

  17. SMurphy28

    SMurphy28 Tele-Meister

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    I'm taking your advice on this one. I ordered some Switchcraft jacks and plan on soldering the George L's cable. I agree, there's something re-assuring with a soldered cable and I like how the George L's sound. I just can't second guess myself every time I want to swap a pedal only to find another cable started coming apart.

    Thanks for the advice!
     

  18. modernartmuseum

    modernartmuseum TDPRI Member

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    so would I strip the cable?
     

  19. modernartmuseum

    modernartmuseum TDPRI Member

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    Also where are these jacks from they look tiny

    would love to try a few
     

  20. drummerdarko

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    After hearing about how great the George L's were, I ordered 26 right angle jacks and 15 foot of cable.... and then I stumble upon this thread. Figures :rolleyes:
     

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