yeah, I was all ready to love Tootsie's, because of it's reputation of course, but between being too packed to even get in, and the bands being good but not great, we had MUCH more fun at Robert's. The best musicians/bands I saw were at Robert's. At least the week we were there. I found it interesting how quite a few musicians play in multiple bands... I'd see Slick Joe Fick playing in a rockabilly band, then after go do 3 sets with Don Kelley because his normal bass player couldn't make it. Then I saw a female fiddle player who was playing in a Hank III-type band, head over to Printer's alley after the gig to play fiddle in a cover band later that night. Joe Fick told me he (and the GOOD bands...the ones that are always playing like Don Kelley) makes about $250 each per night...per band member. ALL of it from the "pickle jar" (passed around for band tips)... the bars don't pay the band anything. $1000/night is a pretty good payout for a band.