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Basswood Telecaster kit - Advice needed

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by mangus, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:42 AM.

  1. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    Hi there,
    I've bought a kit that's made of basswood with a maple neck and I would like to finish it with oil(really love the feeling). THe problem is I would like the wood on the body to be darker than it is, so that leads me to the question that brings me here: Should I stain and grainfill(mahogany colour), just grain fill, just stain?


    I've finished other woods before but I'm completely ignorant when it comes to basswood, the only thing I have to say it's that it's too light in all the senses of the word..

    Regards
     

  2. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    There is no grain to fill on basswood. You can stain with an oil based stain like minwax. It will bring out the " rings" on the wood as well. Half a million 80's and 90's pointy peghead guitars were made from basswood. It is a hardwood but it is less dense, but not overly lightweight like paulonia.


     
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  3. newuser1

    newuser1 Tele-Meister

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  4. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    Right now I only have water based stains and I really don't want to spend any more money on this. Can it be done with them?
     

  5. RogerC

    RogerC Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

    Mar 30, 2011
    Oklamerica
    Water based stains are difficult on wood because they raise the grain with every application which means you're constantly sanding and then reapplying.
     

  6. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    Does it mean that I have to stain, sand and apply stain again before applying oil?
     

  7. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    Is there any decent quality/decent price parts I should be looking for to replace the parts that come with the body?(HB kit)
     

  8. guitarbuilder

    guitarbuilder Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

    Mar 30, 2003
    Ontario County
    cts pots ,switchcraft switch, alnico pickups You might have to enlarge the lead pickup rout and control plate pot holes.
     

  9. LowThudd

    LowThudd Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 11, 2014
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    Possibly needs better tuners too. The ones you got with it *may* be OK, I would just hate to drill holes for tuners which you may end up changing out.
     

  10. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    I like heavy-rock,(like GNR and Rage against the machine), are there any pickups that would place me in the right ballpark? I would like to order Buddah as I've heard great things about them but I can't convince the gentleman who makes them to sell them abroad.(I live in Europe)
     

  11. bettyseldest

    bettyseldest Tele-Afflicted

    Nov 13, 2011
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    There is a TDPRI thread on this kit, you might want to take a look at;

    http://www.tdpri.com/threads/telecaster-kit-or-parts.576866/#post-6528869

    My own advice would be to build the kit as it is supplied, once you have built a serviceable guitar then look at what needs replacing. Which you may find starts with the nut rther than anything electrical. aas far as pickups go the partscasters I have built have used Tonerider pickups. Have fun.
     
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  12. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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  13. LowThudd

    LowThudd Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 11, 2014
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    I agree with the above advice, but for the sound you are looking for, higher output humbucking tele pickups should get closer than the single coils.
     

  14. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    I would prefer to keep the original style of pickups if possible.
     

  15. LowThudd

    LowThudd Tele-Afflicted

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    They make Humbucking telecaster fitting pickups. Like The Seymor Duncan Little 59 and tone stack neck pups. This is supposed to sound like a Les Paul bridge Humbucker. Not sure how close it is, as I haven't used one. Don't know about the neck. But, they are popular. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...Nai2HOslMO6tiqJEjAv3X6m9DkJVn_ZxoCv6oQAvD_BwE

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  16. jhundt

    jhundt Poster Extraordinaire

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    Basswood has very tight grain, and does not need grain filler. But, in my experience, basswood does NOT take stain well. The grain pattern may look nice BEFORE stain, but the wood's porosity and ability to accept stain is highly irregular, and the stained finish will almost certainly look horrible (in my experience). Basswood is an excellent body wood for solid-color finishes. I don't think that an oil finish will give a very attractive result.
     

  17. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    we'll see.. I may ask a friend of mine for alcohol based stain if need be but I really like the colour of mahogany under oil
     
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  18. DavidV

    DavidV TDPRI Member

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    Fiebing's leather dye works well on basswood in my experience, as well as RIT dye dissolved in alcohol. You want dyes for basswood rather than stains as they go on evenly and don't highlight the rather unattractive grain. Neither are very expensive and can be picked up locally.
     

  19. mangus

    mangus TDPRI Member

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    Which colour would correspond to the colour of mahogany?
     

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