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Backup amp in a pedal

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by Vespa_One, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. telel6s

    telel6s Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    The InterBlock is a step up from the MicroBlock. But at $200 that's twice as much as the VHT Special 6 I gigged with last week. :cool: For a rank amateur like me, that's getting expensive for something I hope to never need to use. If I had even one or two paid gigs a month then that might be be worth the money. Obviously, each person makes their own decisions on what they need, can and want to spend, but some of these small pedal board amps are running well into main amp territory price-wise.
     
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  2. SolidSteak

    SolidSteak Friend of Leo's

    Apr 27, 2016
    USA
    How did you find a VHT Special 6 for $100? That's quite a deal!

    *shrug*

    It's a 45 watt amp with EQ, voicing, direct out, and effects loop the size of a pedal for $200.

    I am of two minds about it. A $40 amp sim DI box like the Joyo American Sound definitely does the trick for a cheap backup into the PA. I have one. But I can't think of too many suitable backup amplifiers for a gig for $200 or less, that you can just plug right into a cabinet and go. A crate Powerblock maybe? The EHX 44 Magnum?

    I can definitely see what you're saying though that at a certain cost point, something goes from "in case of emergency break glass" to "why did I pay so much for this thing I never use?"
     
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  3. telel6s

    telel6s Tele-Afflicted

    Jun 25, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Throwing in my VHT as comparison probably wasn't fair; I got the head on eBay from a dealer who had used it as a floor demo so it came with the full factory warranty. Plus I had to pay shipping. And the VHT can't do the same things as my Super Reverb (in a 1x12 cab) which is where a little backup amp like these Quilters and others would be useful.

    "Dear Santa.......I've been a very good boy this year........"
     
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  4. bigben55

    bigben55 Friend of Leo's

    May 19, 2010
    Cincinnati, OH
    I too keep an American Sound in the gig bag, with a 1/4" to XLR adapter plug. If I gigged weekly, which I dont, I'd buy s Flyrig
     
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  5. JustABluesGuy

    JustABluesGuy Friend of Leo's

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    Houston, TX
    For what it’s worth my cousin has been gigging using a joyo straight into the PA. He plays clean.
     
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  6. 4pickupguy

    4pickupguy Poster Extraordinaire

    May 12, 2013
    Fort Worth, Texas
    I had one of those Crate Powerblocks a few years back. Things are truly getting small these days. The EHX 44 Magnum or the Ethos power amp are the same price ($195). The EHX had absolutely no headroom but is small enough to mount anywhere, even on your board. The Ethos power amps has an honest 30 watts with true "Deluxe" output and headroom but is about the size of, say, a Memoryman or something. There is a mini that is much smaller than mine... I have one mounted in each of my 1x12 cabs... super small rig. You put the right preamp in front of these and your current amp WILL BE your backup...
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  7. Phrygian77

    Phrygian77 Tele-Afflicted

    Apr 30, 2016
    Crawfordville, FL
    Late to the party, but I have a Tech 21 Blonde in my bag for this.
     
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  8. Vespa_One

    Vespa_One Tele-Holic

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    Feb 14, 2017
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    Several options to choose from.
    Thanks everyone for all the great info and suggestions!
     
  9. mitchfinck

    mitchfinck Tele-Holic

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    Not quite a compact pedal, but Traynor Quarterhorse is pretty cool. 25W, two channels, switchable reverb, trem, tape delay. Everything they make is bulletproof.
     
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  10. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Tele-Afflicted

    Feb 11, 2006
    Near Athens GA USA
    Yes, it is pretty versatile. I think it works best as a preamp since it is only 5w.

    I used it recently going direct into a mixer on this pedal demo: http://www.tdpri.com/threads/npd-cuvave-digital-reverb-demo.900992/
     
  11. FerruleCat

    FerruleCat Tele-Holic

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    May 2, 2017
    Tulsa, OK
    By the way, Tech 21 has discontinued its Character Series, so these are harder to find.

    For a direct solution, I'd recommend either a Tech 21 Character pedal (analog) or the Zoom MS-50g (digital).

    For a backup amplifier, I'd recommend the Vox MV50 Clean. It's small and sounds fantastic.
     
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  12. Thin white duke

    Thin white duke Tele-Holic

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    Ok thanks, i like the sound you've got in the demo actually, very good clean, i like how you use the slide as well.
     
  13. Random1643

    Random1643 Tele-Holic Silver Supporter

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    Mar 11, 2015
    Upper Midwest
    Re Joyo. +1 ".. I wouldn’t trust it..to work when I needed it to."

    My live-at-the-gig experience with Joyo build quality is that I can't rely on their product. I don't use on my pedal board and wouldn't use as a backup.

    I did have a revelation recently based on bringing a Gretsch semi-hollow to a 4-hour café gig but forgot to bring a tube amp. Running a setup that I normally use for acoustic-electric guitars and a wired-for-sound banjo - all sporting humbuckers BTW, I ran the Gretsch >> Boss AB-2 >> Fishman Analog Preamp/DI/EQ/Tuner/Compressor >> MXR M77 OD >> Lotus Pedal Trem >> Fishman SA-220 sound system. The sound quality was really nice, crisp, expressed the pickups well, handled the pedals great. I have a similar gig happening this weekend and will again forget the tube amp, but this time on purpose.
     
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  14. SolidSteak

    SolidSteak Friend of Leo's

    Apr 27, 2016
    USA
    That's another one I want to try. Reverb AND trem built in sounds nice.

    Looks like it's discontinued though :(
     
  15. mitchfinck

    mitchfinck Tele-Holic

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    Ahh. They're still pretty available up here - the main music store chain Long and McQuade and Traynor are owned by the same umbrella company... every store in my province has at least one right now... on for $129CAD +13%GST... that's a bargain no matter what way you look at it.
    Too bad they're tough to find elsewhere!
     
  16. Paul in Colorado

    Paul in Colorado Telefied Ad Free Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Fort Collins, CO
    I've had mine since 2002 and it's been a gig saver.
     
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  17. johnDH

    johnDH TDPRI Member

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    I still have a Crate Powerblock, as a spare guitar amp, and a spare for anything else that breaks. Its a 150W Class D lunchbox with surprising versatility and decent tone (can be total clean power or with guitar preamp features). Over the the years, its been guitar amp, bass amp, vocal PA and stage foldback amp.
     
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  18. MikeG74

    MikeG74 TDPRI Member

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    Feb 20, 2015
    Indiana
    I just picked up this Quilter amp to use for practice / backup. I mounted it to a pedaltrain nano with the power supply underneath and put a direct box on there with it. Quick and easy to hook up at the show if needed. I can direct it out to the PA or run a cabinet or both. I used it at the last gig and it worked great. The sound man suggested I mic the cab AND run the line and he can mix the two channels... I might try that next time. Its amazing how loud it is for the size.
     

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  19. Dobronaut

    Dobronaut Tele-Meister

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    I've used a Joyo AS as an emergency backup, and it does the job. You can't really expect a pedal to react like an amp, and it doesn't. But I was very grateful that I had it. Saved the day when my usual amp went down. It does have other uses though - I often use it as a recording tool straight into the desk. Convincing Fender tones galore. I also have a separate one on my main pedalboard for it's overdrive. I play about with other pedals, and some are big names, but I always come back to the Joyo for OD duties. I'm not worried about reliability. I've had one for 3 years with no problems. And that is longer than some US pedals.
     
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  20. arnie5150

    arnie5150 Tele-Meister

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    Mar 6, 2010
    magnolia, ms
    You beat me to it! I have the Purple Wind for this reason. Great little head!
     
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