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Are these Bill Lawrence pickups?

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by artdecade, Jan 13, 2018 at 2:03 PM.

  1. artdecade

    artdecade Poster Extraordinaire

    Dec 6, 2010
    Twangsylvania

  2. MDent77

    MDent77 Tele-Holic

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    From a Tim Farriss interview,


     

  3. artdecade

    artdecade Poster Extraordinaire

    Dec 6, 2010
    Twangsylvania
    How about that? Thanks!

    EDIT: They look like Lawrence pickups and I can't find any SD pickups that ever looked like that. Any ideas?
     

  4. bender66

    bender66 Friend of Leo's

    Jan 18, 2010
    on my bike
    Doesn't he mean single blade?

    They do look like 250T's in that pic.

    Now are 250t's Wilde's or the other guy? Me thinks they're the later.
     

  5. MDent77

    MDent77 Tele-Holic

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    I thought they may be SD Hot stack (though in cream).

    Unless he swapped those pickups out.
     

  6. artdecade

    artdecade Poster Extraordinaire

    Dec 6, 2010
    Twangsylvania
    Duncan blades seem a lot thick than the ones that Bill used in his designs.
     

  7. NWinther

    NWinther Tele-Holic

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    Old L-250T's.....
    Had some L-220's in one of my old Tokais back then...it was sadly stolen...still haunts me!
     
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  8. bender66

    bender66 Friend of Leo's

    Jan 18, 2010
    on my bike
    I have a Duncan stk hot stack. It's definitely not one of those.

    Farris could be talking about something else, or...?
     

  9. artdecade

    artdecade Poster Extraordinaire

    Dec 6, 2010
    Twangsylvania
    You know- he might just be mistaken. I'm pretty sure those are Bill Lawrence pickups. He had them in that Telecaster back in 2006 and 2011 according to pics I have seen from concerts and in magazine interviews. Maybe he changed them in the mean time, but who knows?
     

  10. bender66

    bender66 Friend of Leo's

    Jan 18, 2010
    on my bike
    Exactly. The image doesn't correspond to the pickups Farris is referring to me thinks.
     

  11. Jay Jernigan

    Jay Jernigan Tele-Meister

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    Those are definitely L-250's in the picture.
     
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  12. Derek Kiernan

    Derek Kiernan Friend of Leo's

    Sep 7, 2008
    Princeton, NJ
    Never saw an SD pickup that looked anything like that, but all of Bill's 70s single blade pickups did.
     

  13. wildschwein

    wildschwein Tele-Afflicted

    Pics are hard to come by but you can zoom in on this. Looks like a BL to me:
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. ScottJPatrick

    ScottJPatrick Tele-Afflicted

    May 12, 2011
    Stirling, Scotland.
    My Tele had an L220T in the bridge when I bought it in 1980, looks exactly the same.

    guitars0004.jpg
     
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  15. wildschwein

    wildschwein Tele-Afflicted

    Some had a smoother finish and more pronounced blades:

    [​IMG]

    Others had the rougher finish and the flatter blade:
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Jay Jernigan

    Jay Jernigan Tele-Meister

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    I have three smooth ones in an old Strat. Two are flat blades and have one more hook-up wire than the third one does. Number 3 has the arched blade and came from the hand of Ol' Bill himself; they've been in the guitar so long that I have no idea how they're wired (what the extra wire did, etc.) and I apologise for not being familiar with Tele model nomenclature (220); had no use for a Tele then (live and learn), but those are undoubtedly Lawrence p'ups from the era. Loud, honkin', slightly microphonic, no hummin' rock slingers. JJ
     
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  17. wildschwein

    wildschwein Tele-Afflicted

    Nils Lofgren used them in his Strat with an Alembic Stratoblaster preamp -- harmonics galore that only BL pickups can deliver. He later changed over to the dual blade OBLs. I can pull a pretty similar sound out of the L500s:

    Studio version (better quality):
     
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  18. MDent77

    MDent77 Tele-Holic

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    Yeah, zooming in on photo...I'll concur with the consensus. BL they must be.

    I gather he must have swapped pickups at some point.

    (On a side note) He is very fortunate to be playing guitar after the horrible accident w/ his hand.
     
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  19. JohnS

    JohnS Friend of Leo's

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    I agree. I would bet money those are Lawrence pickups. I had some like those "back when."
     
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  20. Derek Kiernan

    Derek Kiernan Friend of Leo's

    Sep 7, 2008
    Princeton, NJ
    He had a couple of single-sized single blade sidewinder pickups, the L250 and the L220, but the L250 was also the name of a dual blade pickup he did as OBL and then as a short-lived Wilde reissue until Bill abandoned it after developing plans to do the L45. The L45 easily does the early 60s thing and is relatively low inductance. The rest of the single-sized blades have been substantially higher. Bill didn't bring back the dual blade 250 because the L45 could do anything it could, in his opinion.

    The L220s used Alnico 8, but I'm unsure about the L250s (which were an attenuated flux version). They're more similar to each other than anything they could be compared to.
     

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