Anyone see the new Blade Runner flick yet?

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  1. joebloggs13

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    Fantastic reviews on rotten tomatoes! Really looking forward to this one! Huge fan of the original cult classic. :)
     
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    I just watched the original with my wife a couple of weeks ago. Funny thing is that was my first go at it, as I thought it was a completely different type of flick (like a Mad Max) when it came out. Really liked it!

    My wife just saw the ad for the new one last night, so we are intrigued.
     
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    I saw it last night with a friend who is also a sci-fi fan. I loved it very true to the original in tone and cinematography. It also was extremely thought provoking on many levels. I hope it does well, but my friend and I thought it may be too cerebral to appeal to the general public. Interestingly, the special Thursday night preview was not very well attended.
     
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    Saw the original when first released in the theaters with my best friend. I was eleven or twelve. I've seen it many time since then. It's one of my favorites. Going to see the new one tomorrow. I'm encouraged by Gretschmans' comments. I was extremely wary when my wife first told me about the new film.
     
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    Just saw it.Fantastic movie.
     
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    I wonder what Philip K. Dick would have thought of this. He liked the Ridley Scott version.
     
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    Wasn't Dick seriously insane by the end of his life?
     
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    The original book nailed it
     
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    No, not really. He was fairly speed addled in the late 50's to early 60's. He'd put that behind him by the 70's. He wrote his some of his most intelligent, thoughtful and outright heavy works in the 70's.

    He had a troubled life, many marriages, that sort of thing. But not insane.

    He did have a pretty heavy 'religious' vision and accompanying experiences in the early 70's. But if that makes one seriously insane, then all the scientists who have reported various 'religious' or peak experiences to Dr. Charles Tarts' TASTE archives should have been institutionalized along with PKD.
     
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    Yes. Yet it's another animal altogether.
     
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    That's what I'm referring to. A quick scan through his Wikipedia entry has the doo-dee-doo-dee theme of The Twilight Zone playing in my head.

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    Throughout February and March 1974, Dick experienced a series of hallucinations, which he referred to as "2-3-74",[26] shorthand for February–March 1974. Aside from the "pink beam", Dick described the initial hallucinations as geometric patterns, and, occasionally, brief pictures of Jesus and ancient Rome. As the hallucinations increased in length and frequency, Dick claimed he began to live two parallel lives, one as himself, "Philip K. Dick", and one as "Thomas", a Christian persecuted by Romans in the first century AD. He referred to the "transcendentally rational mind" as "Zebra", "God" and "VALIS". Dick wrote about the experiences, first in the semi-autobiographical novel Radio Free Albemuth and then in VALIS, The Divine Invasion and the unfinished The Owl in Daylight (the VALIS trilogy).

    In 1974, Dick wrote a letter to the FBI, accusing various people, including University of California, San Diego professor Frederic Jameson, of being foreign agents of Warsaw Pact powers.[27] He also wrote that Stanisław Lem was probably a false name used by a composite committee operating on orders of the Communist party to gain control over public opinion.[28]

    At one point Dick felt that he had been taken over by the spirit of the prophet Elijah. He believed that an episode in his novel Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said was a detailed retelling of a biblical story from the Book of Acts, which he had never read.[29] Dick documented and discussed his experiences and faith in a private journal he called his "exegesis", portions of which were later published as The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick. The last novel Dick wrote was The Transmigration of Timothy Archer; it was published shortly after his death in 1982.

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    VALIS (1980) is perhaps Dick's most postmodern and autobiographical novel, examining his own unexplained experiences. It may also be his most academically studied work, and was adapted as an opera by Tod Machover.[46] Later works like the VALIS trilogy were heavily autobiographical, many with "two-three-seventy-four" (2-3-74) references and influences. The word VALIS is the acronym for Vast Active Living Intelligence System. Later, Dick theorized that VALIS was both a "reality generator" and a means of extraterrestrial communication. A fourth VALIS manuscript, Radio Free Albemuth, although composed in 1976, was posthumously published in 1985. This work is described by the publisher (Arbor House) as "an introduction and key to his magnificent VALIS trilogy".

    Regardless of the feeling that he was somehow experiencing a divine communication, Dick was never fully able to rationalize the events. For the rest of his life, he struggled to comprehend what was occurring, questioning his own sanity and perception of reality. He transcribed what thoughts he could into an eight-thousand-page, one-million-word journal dubbed the Exegesis. From 1974 until his death in 1982, Dick spent many nights writing in this journal. A recurring theme in Exegesis is Dick's hypothesis that history had been stopped in the first century AD, and that "the Empire never ended". He saw Rome as the pinnacle of materialism and despotism, which, after forcing the Gnostics underground, had kept the population of Earth enslaved to worldly possessions. Dick believed that VALIS had communicated with him, and anonymous others, [politics removed] whom Dick believed to be the current Emperor of Rome incarnate.
     
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    Well, like I said, there have been plenty of others with unusual experiences, who demonstrate/present as otherwise in full possession of their faculties. Watch interviews with him, and you'll find he is very much clear headed, and highly intelligent. He exegesis, what has been published, shows a highly intelligent person, trying to make sense of a very unusual/anomalous experience. What really struck me, when I read those published, was that he never adopted a set belief, as most people would. He entertained a range of possible ideas and explanations. Including the possibility that he has lost his mind. Crazy people aren't know for that quality.

    I don't put a great deal of stock in Wikipedia. It's useful, but really has its limits.
     
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    I want to agree with you, but then I am the reincarnation of Shemp.
     
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    I’m going to check out an afternoon matinee, here in the hood...typically, I only like to know if it’s a quality film, (88% Rotten Tomatoes) & it definitely meets my big screen criteria. It’s a rainy day, no-brainer, Raincouver call...goin 3D!!!
     
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    Saw the original. Can't wait for this one to come on out on beta or VHS or DVD
     
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    I just called in sick at work to go see it.
     
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    I loved the new one. Just saw it last Sunday. Amazing, utterly amazing cinematography. Great story, too. Very film noir. My wife at one point leaned over and said, "I don't understand 90% of what is going on". It's very much a film noir plot line, a whodunnit where the answers are not revealed until the very end. I was able to follow everything as it was happening and develop my own working theories as to how all the pieces fit together, and was pleasantly surprised by the plot twists and turns when they occurred. I fear it will hurt ratings just because most movie goers want to be spoon fed clear explanations of exactly what is happening all the time. To the point that they often write scripts such that a character actually summarizes out loud exactly what's happening. In this case they count on the intelligence of the viewer which in American cinema is probably a big mistake. If you're going to see this, the biggest and best screen you can find is well worth it. I saw it in 2D just because of movie times that fit our schedule, so can't opine on the 3D version, though I'm sure that's good as well. I have no problem seeing 3D movies, but some people get a terrible headache and are unable to resolve the two overlapping images into one coherent image and must see it in 2D.
     
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    I saw it last weekend. I would've liked it a lot more if it was a half-hour shorter. Some memorable scenes, but sloooow.
     
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    I saw it last weekend and wow. Just wow. I loved the pacing, and how wonderful to watch a science fiction movie that treated me like an adult and not throwing nonstop cartoony CGI at me.
     
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