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Any fans of classic foreign automobiles?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by rjtwangs, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. dkmw

    dkmw Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Here's one of the prettiest E-types I've ever seen in person. Usually, I consider the only proper color as British Racing Green, but something about this one just works. Black is always the best color for lines and reflections.

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  2. dkmw

    dkmw Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    A couple of posters brought up Ford Capri - and the race versions of those cars were classics.

    Allow me to get to them in a couple of steps...

    First, in 1972 BMW started putting wider-body aero on the first-iteration 3.0CSL

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    This was the beginning of a golden age of GT and GT-based racing. As the rules opened up, by 1974 BMW unleashed the ''batmobile'' CSL, with bodywork that was considered outlandish at the time. This racecar brought BMW a great deal of success and notoriety.

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    Porsche countered with the Turbo 911, and we could insert a zillion pics here. The first Turbo 911s I saw were at Daytona 24hr of 1977. The cars were so new that they didn't have race versions fully developed yet; the cars they sent to that race were barely-modified street cars that still had power windows! Within a couple of years as the FIA Group 5 and IMSA GTP classes got even wilder, the Porsches sported some wild bodywork of their own. Aerodynamics was being (almost) fully developed. Here's an example from 1980. A good friend of mine worked on this car:

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    OK, so now to the Capri. Ford of Germany and tuner called Zakspeed built tube-frame funny car versions of Capris that looked like they'd been run over by a steamroller. Arguably these little beasts were the prototypes for the modern DTM cars. I don't have any in person pics of the Capris, IIRC they only raced in Europe. Here's a link to a good story about them with plenty of pics: https://historicmotorsportcentral.com/2016/01/18/group-5-the-zakspeed-capri-turbo/
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  3. rjtwangs

    rjtwangs Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    1936 Delahaye
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  4. David Barnett

    David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire

    You see all these amazing pre-war Delahayes, Delages, and Talbot-Lagos with flashy bodies by Figoni et Falaschi or Saoutchik, were these cars ever available with ordinary factory bodies too? Like a "daily driver" version?
     
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  5. dkmw

    dkmw Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    IDK if they had daily driver versions; but in that era there were considerable numbers of coachworks artisans who did all kinds of crazy things bending and rolling metal. It's an artform, really - and some of these cars reflect that.
     
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  6. Boomhauer

    Boomhauer Friend of Leo's

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  7. dkmw

    dkmw Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    @Boomhauer - I get it. They took the lovely 3.0CS (go way back in this thread and there's a pic - and I commented about owning one in the past) and made it into a brutal implement.
     
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  8. w3stie

    w3stie Poster Extraordinaire

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    Brisbane
    How about this Fitch-Whitmore Le Mans Special;

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    Designed by Americans John Fitch and Coby Whoitmore - well it's foreign to me!
     
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  9. boris bubbanov

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    You'd ask yourself, which body factory would this be?

    My recollection is, none of these 3 marques had any in house coachwork facilities. They always farmed the coachwork/ bodywork out, unlike Rolls and Cadillac who offered either.
     

  10. boris bubbanov

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    Black is not always the "best color" IMO for all designs. I think it depends on the shape - the form; the types of detailing.

    Some designs look downright awful in white, while others look fine. IMO sometimes you need to design the vehicle so it looks good in most colors - if this means the look in black is less spectacular, that's just too bad.
     

  11. dkmw

    dkmw Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Black works on that Jag!

    I should have put my "best color" comment in context. Whenever you want to find all the minute flaws in something, paint it black. That's what I meant by "showing lines and reflections".

    In the composites biz, whenever we were preparing original prototype parts that were going to mold for production, the last thing you do is paint it black and polish it up good. Every flaw shows and you go back and make it perfect before mold is taken off that part.
     
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  12. homesick345

    homesick345 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Father had same 3.4 jaguar
     

  13. tintag27

    tintag27 Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

    Jan 18, 2010
    Macclesfield, UK
    A Citroen 2CV parked outside my house one day, and a lovely Fiat 500 with a Rome plate, spotted in Marbella, Spain - how cool is that!

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  14. boris bubbanov

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    These are charming.

    I wish I could say that about the current Cinquecento. Although, the "L" version is really awful - the basic 500 is much nicer.
     

  15. rjtwangs

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    Ferrari 275GTB Spyder

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    RJ
     
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  16. David Barnett

    David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire

    I like the 4WD version of the 2CV - they put another engine in the back to drive the rear wheels.


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  17. rjtwangs

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    1938 Alfa Romeo
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    RJ
     
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  18. rjtwangs

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    1957 Ferrari 250GT Spyder
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  19. xafinity

    xafinity Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    my Mom's basement
    "Hudson, pack our bags and launch the Lagonda,
    We're off to Surrey".
    Sir Peter Whimsey
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  20. Zepfan

    Zepfan Friend of Leo's

    Nov 30, 2013
    Horn Lake, MS
    I always thought these were the fuglyest cars ever. Am I seeing a fuel filler pipe in the passenger side door? Another good reason NOT to own one.
     

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