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Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Paulie13, Feb 25, 2011.
Thanks - Mine is June 2010 according to the serial no.
I've been playing my ~1970-71 ES-175 for 30+ years now. It was my main guitar for a long time. I'll never part with it. I've wanted a 50s with a single P90 for some time now. Maybe someday.
Been looking for an ES-175 for years. All guitars are variable I guess ... sure has been the case with ES-175s. A few are amazing, while most are not. The best one I tried was an early 90s, beat, dirty, but with this totally alive feel. Should have grabbed it.
In the meantime, I found similar guitars that totally satisfy. A Heritage H575 custom - solid maple top, a bit shallower body. Not quite the same. An early '60s Guild X-50, which is how Guild imagined that early ES-175 w/p-90, only without cutaway, less bling, slightly different pickup.
I'd love to own a good ES-175 someday.
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Cell phone audio doesn't do it justice. Very nice 1970 Blonde.
Not a 175, but inspired by the 175. My '97 Ibanez Pat Metheny. They are a valid alternative to the 175 .. Great guitars!
The ES-175 was the guitar I most lusted after, and I was quite happy to eventually get one. Mine is a 1990 model, and I pick it up every day. When my family and I go on vacation, I always take the guitar with me.
I love my ES-175 but now lusting after a Gibson hollow-body with P-90s. Any suggestions?
Really nice Mark. I heard the early 70s ES-175s are some of the best produced.
In my opinion, the guy in the rock music world who was the expert on ES-175s was Alex Chilton (RIP). Although with latter-era Big Star, I think he played the very similar ES-225 with two P-90s and a Bigsby:
Have you played an ES-330? I've never owned one, but did own a 64 Epi Casino (made in Kalamazoo) for several years. Pretty much the same guitar and sounded wonderful. But maybe you want to stick with a fatter body?
I've never played a 330 but one with P-90s is exactly what I'm looking for. They don't seem to show up on the used market at a good price very often but I'm keeping my eyes open.
I've played several but never owned one. I wouldn't mind one but can't justify the price. I'm also divided on P90 versus Classic57.
Steve Howe is famous for playing a 175 in Yes. How did he ever tame the feedback?
Not to highjack the thread - I love the hollow body electrics but, let's face it, they're geared towards men. I was looking at the Gibson site, how do you determine the more compact, smaller bodies in the Gibson ES Memphis line? I have considered the ES Les Paul but I think the ES Memphis is most geared for Jazz.
It seems many women make do with standard models in jazz. Mary Halvorson:
On the other hand, Annie Clark had a sig model made to suit her.
As for a small-bodied guitar that would work for jazz and not cost a mint, I like the Eastman El Rey series. Apart from the IV, they are 14" across and 2" thick, hollowbodied without f-holes. Pretty light.
Both those ladies are probably much larger than I am; I'm about 5 1" or 5 2". I did look at Eastman but I'd prefer a Gibson Memphis. I'll probably have to keep looking I guess...
I can see how reaching your picking arm around a dog house of an archtop would be a problem.
When I worked at the Oxnard Music Store, they had an sunburst ES-175 that I would grab & play. At the time, I already had my natural ES-345TDN-SVT, so I was able to compare them often. I loved the warmth of the fully-hollow body of the '175 -- especially for jazz -- but (at the time) the '345 better suited my playing in rock & roll bands.
However, when Gibson first came out with their ES-135LE ("thin" ES-175), I quickly drooled, and bought one, hoping it would be as good sounding as the '175 did (in my memory). But, alas, it was not quite to be. While the '135 looks like the thicker-bodied '175, it is actually more closely related as a "thick" ES-3XX series, with its center-block to which the TOM bridges anchors into.
So, although my ES-135LE "looks" like the venerable ES-175 in general shape, it is NOT its equal...close, but not better than.
Gibson made a full hollow ES-175T (T=thin) for a few years in the mid '70s. Pretty rare. I don't know if they ever tried to reissue them. I was looking for a guitar at the time and played one but ended up choosing a 335.
I saw a guy playing a 175 type at the Wisconsin State Fair a few days ago. Didn't get close enough to see the make, but the band played a couple Led Zeppelin songs (Rock and Roll was one) and it sounded fantastic.
Did you look at an Epiphone Casino Coupe? They seem to get a lot of love. I bet you could get some nice jazz tones out of those.