Alnico 10" Speakers: Eminence 1028K vs Celestion Gold vs Eminence Red Fang

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  1. gridlock

    gridlock Friend of Leo's

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    I owned ‘63 Vibroverb RI with Eminence Legend 1028k’s and was a great sounding amp.

    I also owned a Fender Vibro King with Celestion Golds. It was the first Fender amp that I’ve owned with Celestion speakers. That amp also really sounded nice.
     
  2. Axis29

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    I own a '63 Vibroverb Ri also. For a long time, I ran a Jensen (Recoton) C10R and P10R. It was a great combo. I liked it a lot, never any complaints.

    But, I had a pair of Weber P10Q's laying around. Their current equivalent is, I believe, the 10A125 or 10a100. They had been reconed by Weber and sitting around for a year or so doing nothing but collecting dust. So, I decided, what the heck. I threw them both in and I liked what I heard. Definitely a little later break up than the Jensens. Maybe a touch more efficient? The two alnico speakers are a great sounding! I have very little interest in doing any more speaker chasing with them. However, they were blown when used with a '69 Vibrolux Reverb. I am hesitant to run the Vibroverb at high volumes with these speakers installed. But, then, I rarely push it anyways. So, figure I should be okay.

    I've used 12" Alnico Golds. I loved the speaker at higher volume. But, at low volumes, I found it mushy and dark (might have also been the 5e3 circuit it was installed in?). I am not sure of the 10" version is the same... or even if that is really indicative of that speaker.

    I've got a Celestion G12M65 and absolutely love it! I replaced it with a Neo Creamback and love that speaker too. I'm actually really psyched to see what the 10" Creamback is like!
     
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    Not to side track this fine thread but I want to add to the 10" alnico discussion. When I was searching for an affordable speaker solution for my lil 5F2-A build I found a seller that was wanting to get new speakers for his old Fender Super so he was eager to sell the existing ones. They were old Fender/Eminence blue frame alnico's model 036457 from 1993. The paper former limits how hard you can drive the speaker but man for a little 5F2-A I haven't heard a finer speaker.

    I would highly recommend these old speakers. I see them pop up quite often.
     
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  4. 63 vibroverb

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    Are the 1028K's stout enough for loud gigging? Can they do loud cleans?
     
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    I’m haven’t tried gig loud cleans with mine, now I’m interested myself. I haven’t noticed any breakup at moderate volumes.

    They’re rated at 35 watts.
     
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    I have a pair in my Bassman (mixed with a pair of Jensen P10Rs) and they have stood up to that amp... I also had one in a 2x10 cab I used with an older Bassman 50. It was paired with a C10N or C10K, I can't recall which. It stood up to that amp and a few gigs, and loud practices. But, I wouldn't say I was pounding any of them full wattage all the time... More like, mid volume and every now and then hitting them hard.

    I think in the VVRi, they give a lot more efficiency and so much better tone than the stock Oxfarts. But, I am not sure how they would compare to the Webers, directly. I imagine the Webers might be slightly more efficient (although Weber doesn't publish that info).
     
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    Thanks guys, guess I'll just pick one at this point
     
  8. bigben55

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    Totally agree re: the 1028Ks I have 4 of the older, paper former blueframes in my Super Reverb. I keep the bright switch off and treble at 5, and since the SR has lots of low end(my bass is at 4) it's a non issue. IMO, THE perfect speaker for this amp!

     
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    I have 4 of the older 20 watt ALP blueframes in my 66 Super Reverb, and its TOO LOUD to gig! For me at least!

     
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    I think they're plenty stout to gig loud and proud. Where they break up on the dial will depend on your particular setup.
     
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    I’ve been running 1028Ks in a VVRI for several years. They hold up fine. The tubes break up before they do.
     
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    I just put a 1028k in my Super Champ X2, and it's exactly what I was looking for. Very clear and articulate, and bright without being harsh. It holds up when cranked (15w). Really great classic Fender tone. I almost took a gamble on the Alessandro, but I'm glad I didn't. A beautiful speaker, and a bargain at the price. I'm stoked!
     
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