Acoustasomething

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by Clintstone, Jan 27, 2019.

  1. Moodivarius

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    Clintstone,

    Anymore work on the Acoustasomething?
     
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    How's the weather out in Brandon?

    Blowing & snowing here 2 hours east of Manitoba/Ontario border.

    Hope winter ends soon.
     
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    Clintstone, your build has really got me thinking of building one now.

    My ideas. :twisted:

    Browsing eBay, I saw a FISHMAN Presys Blend 301 Dual Mode Guitar Preamp EQ Tuner Piezo. Under $50
    It has a piezo under bridge, & small mic pickup under the controls that picks up internal sounds in the body of the guitar.
    Likely use an acoustic bridge, like the Fender Acoustisonic, mounting the piezo under.

    If the 301 was mounted somewhere flat on the face of the guitar, piezo under bridge, a Tele pickup amounted ahead of the bridge, like Fender's Acoustisonic, then run the output of the Fishman 301 & Tele pickup into a 3-way switch, or some kind of blend pot. Then a final volume pot to the output jack.

    Might have something close to the real thing, other than the modelling.


    What do you guys think?
     
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    Is that just a thick slab of wood you hollowed out?
     
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    It would be hollows out or made in 3 pieces like Clintstone.
     
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    I say go for it. I’m really interested with any builds along these lines. Have been doing one myself, and thinking of trying more experimenting.
     
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    I pulled the pin. Parts on order.

    Spruce top for the Acoustisonic.
    Chinese Fishman EQ301 Presys Blend piezo/mic acoustic pickup.

    I have a few Strat pickups around to use for the magnetic. Even have a couple humbuckers.

    Got a vintage Fender MIM Strat neck.

    Got Cherrywood or Birdseye for the back.

    Thinking of building an acoustic bridge on top. I will put a solid block between top & back under bridge, string ferrels through back to hold strings.


    Now I have to figure what I need to blend the acoustic pickup with magnetic.
     
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    I helped my son build a guitar with both mag pickups (a pair of 'buckers with all sorts of phase and splits) and a piezo "acoustic" bridge. We brought both out separately with a stereo jack and he either blends them externally or goes to two amps. Well, at least that was the idea, the guitar turned out to be a bit of a disappointment.
     
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    My other idea was to use a 3-way switch & 1 master volume.

    Acoustic - Both - Magnetic.

    Might have to do some in-line trimmer pot on output of either acoustic or magnetic to get similar deviation on both lines to the switch before the master volume to output jack.

    The fun is dreaming things up, then exprerimenting to see if the idea you came up with will work. :)
     
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    I_build_my_own Friend of Leo's

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    Look at the graphtech acousti-phonic preamp. You can blend a piezo bridge pu and regular magnet/inductive pu. Passive blending of a piezo and a mag pup is unlikely to give stellar results. Also keep in mind, if you blend the pups and feed them in to a regular guitar amp, you will miss out on some of the tonal spectrum that a piezo pup would give you on an acoustic amp or mixing table. Think about an option where u can blend and have an optional stereo or 2nd output for the pure acoustic signal for a mixing table while the nag pup goes into a regular guitar amp
     
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    Thanks for some great suggestions & ideas.

    I've been looking at the Graphtech piezo bridge & other brands with the same type of system.

    I've taken into consideration of acoustic & electric amps.
    My plan is to build the guitar, not finish until I do a bit of experimenting with pickup options, blending pickups, or 3-way switch, single or dual output jacks, acoustic or electric strings. Get the sound I want, then finish the guitar & put all of the parts back together.

    Scott
     
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    My sketch
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    I picked a used Fishman Powerblend pedal & Fishman Strat Hardtail Piezo.

    I'll install a magnetic pickup ahead of the bridge all into a volume pot & stereo Jack to go to the outboard Fishman Powerblend.
     
  14. Freeman Keller

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    Have you guys looked inside the new Acoustasonic? Or played one? This is not an "acoustic guitar"


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    My understanding is that it uses a single coil (for tele sounds) and a piezo pickup along with acoustic modelling to achieve the steel string sound - it’s a hybrid of sorts. Andertons have some good videos demoing them on YouTube.
     
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    Here's an Acoustasomething,, lol

     
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    Yes I saw that same review of the guitar.
    I realize it's not a real acoustic, but a hybrid between that & electric.
     
  18. Freeman Keller

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    Yes, it is not an acoustic guitar, it creates "acoustic" like sounds with modelling. I haven't played one yet but I am quite sure that if you were to play it unplugged it wouldn't sound like a Stika over rosewood dreadnaught or anything else in their list of "acoustic guitars".

    I build acoustic guitars and I spend a heck of amount of time fiddling with top thickness and bracing and air volume and coupling to the back and selection of materials to try to achieve the best possible sound within the framework of the genre - must be nice to have a DSP do it for you.

    I encourage each of you to build the guitars that you working on and I will be interested in the results. Meanwhile I'll keep working on the spruce over mahogany OM that is currently on my bench.
     
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    Looks interesting.
    Any chance you can zoom in on U4 (lower right next to shielded connector) and the other side- im curious if there is a DSP.
     
  20. Frank'n'censed

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    ”Acoustasomething”

    I was once acoustasomething...I told the judge, “give me a little time to let it reverberate”. Glad we had seperate bunks...
     
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