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5E3 Speaker Question: P12R Or P12Q?

Discussion in 'Amp Tech Center' started by DennisM, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. DennisM

    DennisM Tele-Meister

    116
    Nov 18, 2013
    Nevada
    This isn't about which speaker brand is the best. I know everyone loves Weber, Celestion and Eminence etc.

    I did a 5e3 build recently and I happened to have a newer Jensen P12Q on hand, so that's what I put in there. After playing it for a few weeks, it kinda seems that the P12Q might be too much speaker for the 5e3. The bottom is nice but seems to be a tad too much and it seems to have too much volume. I'm not getting the breakup that I was expecting. Before laying down over a hundred more on a P12R I thought I'd check with you guys to get your opinions. How much difference is there between the R & Q volume wise, bass response wise and breakup wise?

    I know the originals came with the R.
     

  2. Dacious

    Dacious Friend of Leo's

    Mar 16, 2003
    Godzone
    The original would have used low wattage. I have a P15R original in my Excelsior - delightfully quacky, no issues with handling the power.
     
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  3. ocduff

    ocduff TDPRI Member

    65
    Nov 17, 2003
    USA
    I like those Q and R Jensen reissues particularly the Alnico (I don't like the C12R however - ice pick city).

    I know what you mean - to me an amp sounds best when the speaker break up and amp break up happen at the same time - that's where the magic is.

    People tend to overspeaker amps in hopes of maybe not ever blowing the speaker or getting more volume but that's never worked for me.

    I tried them all and liked this best in 20-watt:

    https://www.tedweber.com/12a125

    The cone is paper thin (well aren't they all - but construction paper thin) and the multi ribs give lots of complexity and detail AND with a stock 5E3 it makes a 5E3 sound like it wants to sound. No more or less.

    FYI the 12a100T was my favorite before this (it is not a loud speaker - would be better for a tweed vibrolux). But you could really make that cone dance.

    I don't think the Jensen P12R is a whole lot quieter - it might just have more highs.
     

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