'57 CUSTOM DELUXE™ vs '64 CUSTOM DELUXE REVERB®

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  1. Tele Plucker

    Tele Plucker TDPRI Member

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    Hi folks,

    I am looking at purchasing either a '57 CUSTOM DELUXE™ or a '64 CUSTOM DELUXE REVERB®. As I haven’t been able to A/B them, can anyone speak of these amps in terms of suitably to say vintage Telecasters and Stratocasters and or ES-335’s, mostly playing blues style or some vintage rock.

    Would either amp stand out over the other? For comparison sake, opinions minus the use of the Tremolo and Reverb.

    I’ve been using a stock Blues Jr for both practice and small club use.

    Spring is here.....cheers!
     
  2. scelestus

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    I don't own either of these, but I do have a '57 Deluxe (RI) and a DRRI. The Blackface amp will be cleaner, louder, and stiffer in response. The '57 is probably a better choice for blues or vintage rock, but only if the volume suits you (clean headroom might be an issue with the '57, but the DRRI would probably be OK as a fairly clean platform at reasonable band volume where you could get gain from your pedals).
     
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  3. theprofessor

    theprofessor Friend of Leo's

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    Of the two, I'd choose the 64 Blackface, simply because it's more versatile. The 57 will be great, but it can't do the cleans that the 64 can. And if you need more dirt from the 64, you can use pedals.
     
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  4. MilwMark

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    The DRRI sounds far better to me than the '64. Nice, as I bought mine new for about 1/4 the price.

    Your question doesn't really compute. Do you want a Tweed amp (limited volume range - silent to LOUD, limited headroom, loose bass, limited EQ) or a SF/BF with reverb, trem, more headroom, two "channels" and more EQ? We can't really tell you that.
     
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    I don't have any experience with tweed deluxes, but I have played the 64 and I think it is the best sounding amp I've ever played. I don't have as much knowledge as most others here, but I don't see how you could go wrong with it.

    I think fender makes a "tweed bassman" pedal that would produce some tweed tones through it, I guess.
     
  6. homesick345

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    very different amps & sounds

    depends on your style of playing / what you like

    bf is that glorious scooped clean drenched in reverb

    tweed is that raunchy full tone, that breaks up really nicely
     
  7. BobbyJames

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    Definitely agree that they are two very different types of amps - I’ve wanted a 57 Custom Deluxe for years now as I’m a big Neil young fan, but if I had a choice between that and a ‘64 I don’t know which I’d pick.

    To give you an answer, I feel like the ‘64 will be more versatile for those clean sounds, plus you can get something like the Catalinbread Formula ‘55 Overdrive Tweed Deluxe if you really are craving that sound - I’ve not used one, but it seems to nail the tone of the old fender tweed amps
     
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    I concur with everyone. You really have to go and try both - and by that I mean generically a Deluxe Reverb and Tweed Deluxe, not the specific models
     
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    Boy, you really are comparing apples to oranges here. :) About the only thing alike about the two amps is the name "Fender" on them. If you want a grit and grind and in-your-face amp, the 57 is what you need. No real clean headroom at all, breaks up really early. The 64, to me, is the perfect amp. Crystal-clean sound if you want it but can get nasty if you turn it up. But by the time you get it to overdrive, you'll be breaking windows....FWIW, I've had, and sold, several 57 Deluxes, just never sounded what I was looking for, even though I kept trying. I recently bought a '64 Custom Deluxe and will never get rid of it. Wish Fender had made these years ago, it has stopped my hunt for "the sound". The 65 DRRI came really close, the HW 64 checked all of the boxes.
     
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  10. MilwMark

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    In my case, I probably paid as much for my 65 DRRI as the '64. Ultimately, It was just spread out over the 4 I owned (and sold 3) over the years before I finally came back around,. Whoops.
     
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    You know what they say.....you can add dirt but you can't add clean.

    It's true. Buy the DR.

    ;)
     
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    just got a tweed deluxe circuit..i can get clean..just back vol on guitar back. It is a gritty amp or will yield the classic sounds it was intended to..or.. boosted it cause just had to see & got it in the ballpark of what i favor for an amp tone wise, 427gut (2).jpg
     
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  13. Fluddman

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    I have a few Tweed Deluxe's and they have enough clean headroom for home use but not enough for gig levels. Because of this I gig with a DRRI.

    I only have single coil guitars but I imagine if you are using humbuckers the headroom would be further reduced.
     
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    I have a blackface PRRI and am trying to get a good price for a DRRI. I like my Princeton BUT a DRRI has more wattage, power, two channels and is a great amp. ( Had a Blues Jr and got rid of that real quick).
     
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    ‘64 CDR no question.
     
  16. Wally

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    I would buy the 64 Custom Dr. It is not exactly a direct copy of a DR in that it has bias vary tremolo....and it has Reverb on both channels. The bias vary operates on the output...so it is always available. I like that. It is also a handwired eyelet board amp. I would be changing the Normal channel for more midrange and gain....so it would be closer to the tweed thing.
     
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  17. Tele Plucker

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    Thanks to everyone for their input....much appreciated. In the end, perhaps I should have one of each. Cheers...
     
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    Get a Pro Sonic....it can do what those two amps do and much, much more. Or.....yes, get one of everything.
     
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    In a band mix I would definitely want the 64 type. It's just a much more robust sounding and less "one trick pony" style of amp. (I've only compared vintage or direct clones of the two"
     
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