12-13tkr? ... That can get you a used CS tele, only problem is that they are rare. One or two a year. (People trying to sell them for 17-18tkr is less rare, but ...) I bought a '69 AVRI last year for 6k that I ended up not liking, but still took me a month to sell it for 7k. 6k for one of the AVRI's is very lucky, 7k is doable with patience, while if you pay more than 8k, you've paid too much imo. Only issue is that they are rare, so you do indeed need patience And of course for 12-13tkr. you can buy a new one. Happy hunting!