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4 way switch mod. Anybody actually use it?

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by Toadtele, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:50 PM.

  1. Toadtele

    Toadtele Tele-Meister

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    I built my two teles. Love them like my children. I did the 4way switch mod in both because so many people said I should. I wasn’t a member here at the time but saw a few posts advocating it. At first I thought “well this is cool. Another option anyway. I’m sure I’ll play around with it”. Well I haven’t. I’ve tried here and there but never stay in that 4th position long. I assumed I’d use it in higher gain situations. But nope. Seem to prefer the bridge only for higher gain. It’s not a big deal. Doesn’t affect the look of the instrument. It was a little more work than a three way. But I love doing that stuff! So no big deal. Just curious who’s done it an if they use it.
     

  2. peterleroux

    peterleroux TDPRI Member

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    Oct 1, 2009
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    I did it on my CV, and used it quite often for a solo tone and to get the bassier response
     
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  3. drf64

    drf64 Friend of Leo's

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    Yes
    No
     
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  4. Toadtele

    Toadtele Tele-Meister

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    See I thought I’d use it for solos too. And really I can get a decent tone out of it but it doesn’t seem to cut through like the bridge does. As far as bassier.... I’ll have another listen.
     

  5. Sollipsist

    Sollipsist Tele-Holic

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    I've got it on my Paisley Tele. I don't use it as often as the bridge, but that's also true for the middle and neck positions.

    It's a good "neutral" tone. I guess I use it in the opposite way that I expected, when I DON'T want to cut through the mix as much.
     
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  6. Toadtele

    Toadtele Tele-Meister

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    That is s a great point. It is very “neutral”. Settles into the mix nicely
     

  7. ndcaster

    ndcaster Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 14, 2013
    Indiana
    I use it all the time, either for noise canceling or those fat humbucker type tunes like Tennessee Whiskey
     
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  8. AAT65

    AAT65 Friend of Leo's

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    @Toadtele I’m with you! I’ve got an Elite Tele with the S1 switch to switch between series and parallel. It doesn’t sound much like a humbucker to me: it is thicker than the parallel sound but quackier than a humbucker would / should be. For higher gain or solos the bridge position sounds better. So after a few weeks I just stopped using it: I don’t think I’ve pressed that S1 switch in the last year!
    On top of that personally I wouldn’t consider the 4-way switch because I love the simple klunk of a 3-way switch - I don’t like 4- or 5-way switches, they make me think too hard about what I’ve selected!
     
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  9. JL_LI

    JL_LI Tele-Afflicted

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    I have an S1 switch on mine that does the same thing. The button is never pressed for long. Pressed, the guitar is louder, but the increase in volume is mostly lower frequencies. I have a crunch channel on my Mesa for pedal free overdrive. The S1 switch was also challenging to wire correctly. The neck pickup with the volume rolled back is kind of jazzy but I don't really have much use for it playing country.
     
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  10. Toadtele

    Toadtele Tele-Meister

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    My fourth position almost seems to quieter than the other three
     

  11. RolandG

    RolandG TDPRI Member

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    Jul 31, 2015
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    I’ve done it on all my builds. Do I use it? Yes. In a set of 40 songs I might use it twice. Since the alternative would be bringing an additional guitar to a gig I’m happy to use a 4-way switch. Actually I use a 5-way because the bridge pickup is tapped.
     
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  12. blowtorch

    blowtorch Telefied Ad Free Member

    May 2, 2003
    Wisco
    It's a standard (to me) mod I do on all my teles, along with the electrosocket swapout. I use it all the time
     
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  13. RyCo1983

    RyCo1983 Tele-Afflicted

    Aug 15, 2012
    Central PA
    Done it. I also use it. it's a different kind of lead boost for me. Sometimes an OD...sometimes the series spot.
     
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  14. Papa Joe

    Papa Joe Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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  15. joshigh

    joshigh Tele-Meister

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    I don't like gigging without it. Gives me just enough beef and omph when I need it.
     
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  16. Kriticaster

    Kriticaster Tele-Meister

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    This is interesting as I’ve purchased a 4 way switch for my thinline build as it seemed like a good way to get more tone options...
    that along with a push-pull pot attached to a 3300 sprague cap for ‘warmth’ control, ala Dirk Wacker...

    but it’s been such a long time since I’ve played electric guitar that I really have no frame of reference... it just sounded like a good idea...

    I wonder how much I’ll use either of these options...
     
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  17. TRexF16

    TRexF16 Friend of Leo's

    Apr 4, 2011
    Tucson
    It also probably depends a little on what pickup set it's done to. Texas Specials and Twisted Tele really seem to respond well. Also, it's really easy to do on Tele neck pickups that have no metal cover. And since these seem to be brighter by themselves, the neck-bridge series tone seems closer to a humbucker too. To me it's a versatile tone. Very jazzy with the tone dialed back, and with everything dimed and some dirt or boost added, very useful as well.

    Cheers,
    Rex
     
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  18. tweedtone

    tweedtone Tele-Afflicted

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    Yes; got a 4-way on an '86 paisley with a SD Broadcaster set. It's great for soloing on jazz-y stuff like Western swing.
     

  19. Toadtele

    Toadtele Tele-Meister

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    Well thanks guys. I’m inspired to play around with it again. Fresh ears. Maybe this concern warrants some new pups. Have vintage noiseless right now. Enjoy them. But couldn’t hurt to try something new!
     

  20. RLee77

    RLee77 Friend of Leo's

    May 15, 2016
    Silicon Valley
    I've never gotten along with noiseless pickups, although I understand that some folks need them for the noisy conditions they play in.
     
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