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4 way selector options diagrams

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by jfgesquire, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. jfgesquire

    jfgesquire Tele-Meister

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    Search isn’t working and there was an old thread I found but the pictures were gone . . .

    Looking for diagrams of 4 way, but with bridge/parallel/series/neck configuration. Is that even possible?
     
  2. bender66

    bender66 Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Jan 18, 2010
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    Isn't that practically every 4 way combo?

    Maybe I'm not understanding the question.

    I do remember saving an image that had every order if that's what you mean.
     
  3. mistermikev

    mistermikev Tele-Meister

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    should be doable with two throws... hardwire bridge live to live(lug3 vol), neck neg to ground. common on throw one is bridge neg, goes to ground in pos 1, 2. common on throw 2 is neck live... goes to ground in pos 1, 4, and pos3=bridge neg(or common of throw one). voilla.
     
  4. brogh

    brogh Assistant Admin Staff Member

    Jun 26, 2010
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    yup it's the most standard configuration, you have to de solder the neck cover, look at seymour duncans website, it's there in the wiring section
     
  5. archetype

    archetype Fiend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Jun 4, 2005
    Williamsville NY
    I remember that post and the table of every possible switching order. I've lost the image that I downloaded and haven't been able to unearth anything equivalent with Google.

    The usual combination is 1/2/3/4 = bridge/parallel/neck/series. I, too, want to wire the 4-way switch in my James Burton Standard 1/2/3/4 = bridge/parallel/series/neck
     
  6. brogh

    brogh Assistant Admin Staff Member

    Jun 26, 2010
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  7. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity

    par ser in da middle
     

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  8. jfgesquire

    jfgesquire Tele-Meister

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    Actually, bridge/parallel/neck/series back to front, is the diagram that came with my Fender 4-way switch.
     
  9. eallen

    eallen Tele-Afflicted

    Toneshapers.com is a great place to find clear diagrams. I assume you are talking SS pickups.

    Eric

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  10. Tuxedo Poly

    Tuxedo Poly Tele-Afflicted

    Dec 19, 2011
    Merseyside UK
    Four way options. This set includes neck shunt link which helps to reduce noise.
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  11. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity

    I myself find it strange how many ways some folks need to go with this.

    KISS, 1-2-3 keeps regular TELE switching, then all the way forward for overdrive. Seems the most ergonomic.

    .02 and such as.
     
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  12. SPUDCASTER

    SPUDCASTER Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Sitting around the house probably doesn't make a difference how you have it configured.

    Live, I like the "standard" wiring. I always know where the series is located on the fly.

    If you don't switch pickup positions during songs, you're probably okay however you have it wired.
     
  13. Marc Morfei

    Marc Morfei Tele-Meister

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    Coincidentally I was just googling that same topic. The Fender website has wiring diagrams for all their guitars, including the Baja tele which is wired with a 4-way switch. Here are the links to the Fender page, then to that specific diagram.

    https://support.fender.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000820646-Telecaster-Service-Diagrams
    https://p4.zdassets.com/hc/theme_assets/549136/200076499/014-1502A_SISD.pdf

    Another great source is the Seymour Duncan website, which has every wiring diagram you can think of.
    https://www.seymourduncan.com/wiring-diagrams

    Finally, I found this awesome video on YouTube that shows just how to do it. The pickup mod at the very end is a key piece of info.
     
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  14. jfgesquire

    jfgesquire Tele-Meister

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    I don't sit around the house, thank you, so I guess it makes a difference to me.

    Setting a guitar up for the next song is almost as important as switching during songs, and you don't always have much time to do so.

    My best live guitar was a Strat modified to master volume, master tone, middle pickup volume blend. It has recently been put back right and retired.

    The Les Paul is a great sounding guitar, but live takes too long to get dialed in, especially with the volume pots being coupled. Great for studio work, but live it pretty much has to be pre set. Yes I could rewire it, but I don't want to. FB_IMG_1498678991316.jpeg
     
  15. SPUDCASTER

    SPUDCASTER Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Didn't intend to insinuate that you only sit around the house or don't change pickup positions during a song.

    My post was just an observation/opinion of how I view the B/M(parallel)-M(series)/N setup.

    Wire it however it works for you.
     
  16. IronSchef

    IronSchef Tele-Holic Platinum Supporter

    THIS^^

    I love 4-way mod for tele - always do this option (all the way forward is series combo) :)
     
  17. heavypic

    heavypic TDPRI Member

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    Glad I found this post. I'm getting ready to do the 4-way mod for my Tele w/ Cavalier LK-neck and Nashville-bridge, .033 uF tone cap, and treble-bleed (.001 cap / 150k resistor in parallel).

    Iron Schef - Curious as to why you prefer switch position 4 for Neck-Bridge in series?? Is there an ergonomic reason or just personal preference? I'm considering Breja's option or 1-Bridge, 2-Bridge-Neck series, 3-Bridge-Neck parallel and 4-Neck.

    Regards
     
  18. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity

    So how can it be more simple than Fender's scheme ?

    1-2-3 is just like a million Tele's, same 'ol - same 'ol, and all the way forward for series.

    As I posted earlier, KISS
     
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  19. SPUDCASTER

    SPUDCASTER Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    See post #12

    I will usually switch to the series position for a lead section. Live and on the fly the series position is easier to find at #4.

    If it's somewhere in the middle of the switch you might have to do a little searching. If you can immediately find it every time, good for you.

    It just eliminates the doubt as to where it is when it's located in switch position #4.

    The other option I would consider would be the 3rd from the left on post #10.

    The series right next to the bridge position.

    That brings me to my ultimate decision for the series option. My lack of love for Oak Grigsby switches has led me to the Deaf Eddie wiring.

    The next series option I will do will be a no load push/pull for the tone. And wire it per the Deaf Eddie schematic.

    His method allows you to access the series option with the p/p when the 3way CRL switch is in any position.
     
  20. The Ballzz

    The Ballzz Tele-Afflicted

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    Here's pretty much all the options, although the "wires" are a bit light and a little bit hard to see! I use the top left, but my buddy prefers the top right, and I may change mine to that also. I find it easy to accidentally "whack" the switch to the current "bridge only" position and if I'm going to end up somewhere I wasn't planning to be, I think I'd just as soon have it be both pups in series!

    HTH,
    Gene

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