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4 Rustkaster steel body Telecasters !

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by The Crash Cowboy, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. The Crash Cowboy

    The Crash Cowboy Tele-Meister

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    Three Amigo's !

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  2. The Crash Cowboy

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    The sides are almost pointwelded (TIG) on the Baritone. Tired. Time to have a few. Cheers, y'all !

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  4. The Crash Cowboy

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    The result of A Hard Days Night: I almost closed the Baritone.

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    Same trick, totally different guitars !
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    ... not completely closed her up yet ...
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    Those d%$ned cutaways are the rough part of the welding job ...

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  5. jmoore65

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    Very cool!

    Will you be filling gaps and tidying up edges, etc?

    (if so, how?)

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  6. The Crash Cowboy

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    Of course !

    I will fill the edges of the sides by MIG welding them to the body parts; the welds will give me enough 'flesh' to grind a soft edge to it. Did so on Rustkaster 0001.

    About the finishes:

    The Budget Tele will be a kinda 'reverse rustburst', using the patina that's already there.

    The Baritone will be plain clean steel.

    Both bodies will be finished with transparent car paint.
     

  7. The Crash Cowboy

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    As you can see, I had a rough time welding the sides to the cutaways of the Baritone ...

    Well, if a welder needs to grind, he's a grinder, not a welder, huh ?

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  8. adamkoop

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    I struggle with those tight radii even when dealing in wood, so you're not alone.
     
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  9. The Crash Cowboy

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    This evening I'll go on welding after a two week break.

    I found a set of Wilkinson 'vintage Kluson style' tuners second hand. They'll go on the Baritone neck. I like the look of them on a Tele/Strat neck, and the 'split shaft'.

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    I used similar tuners (nameless though) on Rustkaster 0001:

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  10. The Crash Cowboy

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    I MIG/MAG welded, grinded and sanded the back of the Baritone today.

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  11. The Crash Cowboy

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    I bought my own powerfile. Very handy tool !

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  12. callasabra

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    Those welds are rough but in difficult spots, not that I could do any better. I am really enjoying this thread and seeing these come together. Makes me want one.
     
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  13. The Crash Cowboy

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    Thanks ! And remember I'm just a hobby welder ...
     

  14. callasabra

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    I grew up in a machine shop and have seen a lot of fabrication. You are doing fine. I was never a good welder. And i am enjoying what you are doing, keep it up!
     
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  15. The Crash Cowboy

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    This week I will grind and sand the front of the Baritone at home. That saves a lot of time during the weekly welding class.

    I welded the edge close on both sides.

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  16. The Crash Cowboy

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    After the first grinding - and sanding session.

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    Bottoms up !
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    Grindsandgrindsandgrind ...
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    The sides didn't close everywhere ... some more welding needed.
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    And it's time I finish the neck cavity !
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  17. Zepfan

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    When butting 2 pieces close together and laying down a weld, most of your weld stays on top. Then you grind/sand flat, you lose most of your weld allowing the pieces to separate down the road unless you get enough penetration in the weld. That's hard to achieve with thin metal at low temps without melting everything.

    You should leave a slight gap between the pieces to allow weld to fill the gap. That will stay in place after the grinding and keep the pieces together. This makes a stronger joint weld that will hold up to vibration and abuse.
     
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  18. The Crash Cowboy

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    Thanks ! I'll have to TIG weld the gap you see on the image now. It's a good weld on most places. I even can sand a little rounding in it, to get rid of the knife sharp edges. Rustkaster 0001 was welded the same; next time I'll try to leave a gap !
    Problem with leaving a small gap will be that clamping the sides to the guitar and spot-weld them to it will be much more complicated ...
     

  19. Zepfan

    Zepfan Friend of Leo's

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    You can clamp one area and then tack a spot a little down from the clamp that opened a little, repeat the process til you get all the way around. This will make your overall dimensions a little larger unless you cut your material size back a bit when cutting everything out.
     
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    Thanks for the advice, again !
     

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