2 ground wires in my strat ??

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  1. NastyMojo

    NastyMojo Tele-Afflicted

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    I took apart my Fender blacktop strat today,and I noticed it has the ground wire to the spring claw,and then it has one that is attached to metal loop and the loop is screwed into the body under the PG. Any idea??
     
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    The black paint in the cavities of the modern Fender guitars is conductive, and provides some measure of shielding. The ring terminal screwed down to the paint grounds it. Shielding is grounded, otherwise it can actually contribute to noise and hum problems if it isn't.
     
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    Ok,so one is actin as shielding,and the other is the actual ground wire?
     
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    No, the paint is the shield, and the ring screwed down to the paint grounds the shield. A shield that isn't grounded isn't a shield.

    This is going to degenerate into one of those, "Well, I picked the shovel. The shovel is my pick," threads, isn't it?
     
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    If I get that part of the question, the other ground lead ( to the spring claw) connects the bridge plate and strings to ground.
     
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    O.K. you tell him, I ain't !!


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    ......Ok I get it now,the paint is the shield,but the question was why is there two ground wires...one to the screw ring,and one too the spring claw? All of my other Strats have only one ground wire,and its connected to the spring claw.
     
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    The Black paint is used as a shielding sort of like the foil on the back of the pickguard. Your ground wire to the ring is so that the paint can do its thing. Your guitar still needs to be grounded to the claw like every other strat you have seen. If the ring screw wasnt there with a ground wire to it, the paint would create hum with the pickups because the paint would not be grounded.
     
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    Actually not "create hum" just not be able to BLOCK (shield) it, as it has to have a place to get rid of it...........................dump to ground via the wire.
     
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    dsutton answered that in his second post
     
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    The wire from the trem claw connects to the ring terminal that's attached to the body that's covered in shielding paint. That wire then goes on to the back of the volume pot. That means the trem claw, the shielding paint, and the back of the volume pot are all electrically tied together. The back of the volume pot is grounded, so the shilelding paint and the trem claw are also grounded. Grounded parts means less hum. Less hum is good.
     
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    Getting to complicated. I believe he is (was) confused because he has TWO wires there, one to the eye terminal, one the the claw.

    That's it afaik
     
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    ahhh... gotcha.

    Two things need to be grounded. One wire goes to each thing that needs to be grounded.
     
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    Thanks guys,I was just confused! Lunchie made sense of it :)
     
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    and they all lived happily together

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    :D haha
     
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