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1976 Ibanez "Lawsuit" Strat

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by bcarter_1, Jan 3, 2012.

  1. bcarter_1

    bcarter_1 Tele-Holic

    984
    Feb 27, 2011
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    A friend of mine has a buddies Ibanez strat to do some work. I offered to help, "If you're gonna do it, lets do it right."
    Here it is.
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    It needs a fret dress pretty bad, woohoo more practice for me.
    It has the six screw synchronized trem, the screws were in way too tight, two of them wont come out they just turn.
    When I get them out, I think it needs the matchstick repair?
    With a good set up and fret job this could be a really good player.
    Does anybody have an idea of value, his buddy said to make an offer.
     
  2. SamClemons

    SamClemons Poster Extraordinaire

    Jan 23, 2011
    Jasper, TN
    Honestly not much. I would shoot for 100, if it played well with strings, I might on a good day go 200.
     
  3. studio1087

    studio1087 Doctor of Teleocity

    May 10, 2003
    Near Milwaukee
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  5. mlove3

    mlove3 Tele-Afflicted

    Apr 15, 2008
    Phoenix Az
    I owned one of these lawsuit strats back in the day, got stolen at a gig. One of the best playing guitars I ever owned.
     
  6. Singin' Dave

    Singin' Dave Friend of Leo's

    May 22, 2008
    Chicago
    Those 70's "knock off" Ibanez models are held in fairly high esteem. Not sure about the Fender knock-offs but I knwo th Gibson ones are. I'd probably make an offer at about $350 noting repairs needed.
     
  7. bcarter_1

    bcarter_1 Tele-Holic

    984
    Feb 27, 2011
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Strange how thing go sometimes.

    So my friend got a call Today, the buddy that owned the guitar has passed away.
    I have worked with my friend at the same shop for about four years, he has had the guitar the whole time, and then some.
    He put a new 5 way switch in it, and cleaned n lubed the pots.
    Been puting off shipping it back for awhile, his buddy was in no hurry to get it back.
    For some reason he kept thinking of his buddy, thats what inspired him to ask me if I had a box, I just happened to get one last week.
    http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bass-place/306407-nbfmbd-new-bass-my-boy-day.html
    I told my friend he could have the box, he wanted to put strings on it, I offered to clean it up, and now want to make sure it it the best it can be as a tribute to his friend.
    I don't know what the future holds for the guitar, fix it up for his wife, sell it for her, etc...
    It is pretty clean, I will get some more pics soon.
    Brian
     
  8. bcarter_1

    bcarter_1 Tele-Holic

    984
    Feb 27, 2011
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Here are a few pics.
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    One big chip in the back.
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    Crack in paint near neck pocket.
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    Lower bout.
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    First three frets have pretty good wear, needs to be dressed but still ok.
    My 1991 Strat plus has similar wear, gonna fix em both soon.
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    Is it just me or does the bridge look skiwampus? It could just be the way the pick guard is cut.
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    The two screws on the bass side just turn and don't come out, I will pull them out and make a repair to return it to a serviceable guitar.
     
  9. ad720

    ad720 Tele-Meister

    272
    Dec 9, 2010
    Phila, PA
    I have an Ibanez P-Bass of that vintage. Really, really good stuff.
     
  10. Dave_O

    Dave_O Friend of Leo's

    Jul 27, 2006
    offline and IRL
    I hear you, ad720.
    My first bass was an Ibanez P-Bass copy fitted with an early DiMarzio P-Bass pup and a Badass bridge.
    I then bought a Rick 4001- beautiful to play, but a "meh" sound. I got rid of it when the neck cracked behind the nut.
    Then I bought a MusicMan Stingray (this was an early Stingray, about 1978/79)
    I sold the MM, and went back to the Ibanez, because it sounded better, felt better and didn't chew 9v batteries like they were going out of style.:D

    That S-style Ibanez may not be a Silver Series (IMO the best 70s factory-built Strat. Ever. By anyone.), but it's still a very, very nice guitar.
     
  11. Paul in Colorado

    Paul in Colorado Doctor of Teleocity

    Mar 17, 2003
    Fort Collins, CO
    A friend had a Silver Series Ibanez. The fool sold it to someone else when he needed money (for booze probably) and knew how much I loved it One of the best Strats I ever played including vintage Fenders.
     
  12. bcarter_1

    bcarter_1 Tele-Holic

    984
    Feb 27, 2011
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Well the two screws that just turned, were not stripped they were broken.
    I tried to drill them and use a left hand remover, but the bit wandered on both.
    I made a tool to remove them.
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    Used a piece of tube 1/8" cut some teeth in it with the dremel, mounted it in the drill press, drilled down 1", and cored that sucker like an apple.
    Glued in some dowels, drilled new pilot holes, got the bridge back on nice and straight, and set it up with five springs nice and tight to the body.
    Used the information here http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-technical/201556-fret-leveling-yer-tele-101-a.html and made the frets nice and smooth.
    Plays like buttah!
    I have used the fuzz effect on my Digitech RP 255 before, but it never sounded as good as it does with this guitar, mmmmmmmmmmm nice and hendrixy...
    I adjusted the pickup height, and boy this thing quacks.
    Great clean sounds, better with a little dirt, and even better with the fuzz!
     
  13. jipp

    jipp Friend of Leo's

    my first guitar a yamaha se 200 1980 has fret wear sorta like in the picture.. i originally was thinking it needed a refret but as i signed up to this forum and learning reading on how to build guitars i plan to start on my first in 2 months. im thinking now it will be playable with a fretlevel.. this makes me so happy i love that old yamha se 200.. the neck on it is perfect nice and fat c shape.. the guitar it self weighs more than any les paul.. but im a crippled and have to practice sitting down anyhow so weight is not a issue. this gives me hope i can fretlevel her, maybe even sand her to wood and new pickups and what not.. but just to have that guitar by my computer would be so cool.

    sounds like your friend will keep it as a memory of his old freind.. life is short so live it up. iv already died once.. for 2 minutes in in no hury to die again.

    rock on , and i think the guitar is in great shape. hope his wife plays her some too.
    chris.
     
  14. Blazer

    Blazer Doctor of Teleocity

    Age:
    40
    Dec 2, 2003
    The Netherlands
    As I said in my thread about having played a seventies Ibanez SG, I owned several of those Ibanez Lawsuit Lesters and they were TERRIBLE guitars. You need to be lucky to find a good one.
     
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