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1961 Stratocaster build

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by preeb, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. Revv23

    Revv23 Friend of Leo's

    Oct 9, 2009
    Michigan
    Hey Gil,

    I've been going thru your threads recently, and I apologize if I've missed it, but what brand bridge do you use in you PRM strats?

    Thanks,

    Mark
     

  2. preeb

    preeb Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    Sep 10, 2008
    Sonoran Desert
    No brand...
    It's hand made to 100% vintage specs.
    One model for early version '54 and the other for '55-'65 specs
    look here

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  3. jonal335

    jonal335 Tele-Holic

    658
    Jan 8, 2011
    vancouver island bc
    That is the first white strat I'd like to take home - I love the contrast with the pickguard ...
     

  4. preeb

    preeb Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    Sep 10, 2008
    Sonoran Desert
    Olympic White looks very nice with the historically correct plastics. It's a Celluloid Nitrate pickguard and in the right color too (-;
     

  5. adrianjordan

    adrianjordan TDPRI Member

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    Jul 22, 2011
    Bath
    Probably a stupid question, but what does PRM stand for?
     

  6. preeb

    preeb Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    Sep 10, 2008
    Sonoran Desert
    Perfect Remake Model.
    It basically means that all the used parts and materials are 100% historically accurate, all NOS screws, All the original tooling marks... etc...
    In some cases original old parts are also used.

    For example, Celluloid Nitrate pickguard instead of Vinyl, Hand made bridge instead of Gotoh, deformed router bit for the worm channel instead of a sharp bit, Brazilian rosewood instead of Nadagascar RW, Polystyrene or Nylon knobs and covers instead of ABS... etc... and the list is very long.
    Most PRM parts do not affect tonality but some do in a very audible way, for example, the bridge and saddles.
    Not a lot of sense... but when you really love something there are no limits to how far you're willing to go, right?
     

  7. Ben de Bretagne

    Ben de Bretagne NEW MEMBER!

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    Oct 1, 2011
    Bernieulles FRANCE
    Lovely guitar, congratulation !!!
    Can I ask you a question, I have to replace a 1961 fingerboard, the precedent owners have made an uggly job of this, brazilian rosewood was replaced by some flamed bubinga! frets are not parallel, pins as dots, slab board replaced for a veneer board, all the rest is correct ! Would you be nice and share the measurements/thicknesses of your original 1961: middle and on sides of fingerboard.
    And did you find the paste you use is similar to original clay dots?
    Cheers!

    Benoit de Bretagne
    French Luthier
     

  8. Sterling Sound

    Sterling Sound Tele-Meister

    342
    Oct 18, 2009
    The Hague
    Here is a little recording I made with the Olympic White Gil Yaron strat from post #474, using a Marshall JTM 45 and an old 1967 Marshall 4x12 cab.

     

  9. Revv23

    Revv23 Friend of Leo's

    Oct 9, 2009
    Michigan
    You need to smile when you play that thing!!!!! Great playing btw. Bridge pickup sounds awesome. I need me a jtm i think.

    Sent from my iPhone using TDPRI
     

  10. Sterling Sound

    Sterling Sound Tele-Meister

    342
    Oct 18, 2009
    The Hague
    Thanks.. I was too much in awe of the guitar :)
     

  11. preeb

    preeb Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    Sep 10, 2008
    Sonoran Desert
    Here's a '62 slab in 3tsb

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  12. Paradoxo

    Paradoxo TDPRI Member

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    Jan 27, 2010
    Europe

    Just Awesome!!!!!!
     

  13. Paradoxo

    Paradoxo TDPRI Member

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    Jan 27, 2010
    Europe
    Gil - just a question:

    In the beginning of this thread you wrote the white Strat was made of a 2 piece alder blank. Did you glued it up? Which glue? Do you know which glue was used from Fender in the 50-60ies for joining the 2-3 piece-blanks??

    Thanks bye
     

  14. danharr

    danharr Tele-Meister

    171
    Apr 20, 2009
    Annapolis, MD
    Just amazing-
    I've got a real '59 hardtail, and looking at your work is like going back in time. The nut on my guitar looks different (this is an old photo), but I'm not positive it is original. Might have changed color over time. Were these bone nuts?
     

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  15. preeb

    preeb Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    Sep 10, 2008
    Sonoran Desert
    Mid 50's and on it was standard white glue (not yellow!).
    Before that they used a light brown powder based glue of unknown origin (at least to me that is).
    The white is easy to spot since the glue lines shrink with time and shows on the surface but the earlier glue doesn't shrink and is very hard and water resistant. I use PF for blackguards in the rare occasion of not using a 1 pc body (which is easy with Ash) and for the 1950 NAMM Esquire sandwich pine body.
     

  16. Paradoxo

    Paradoxo TDPRI Member

    49
    Jan 27, 2010
    Europe
    Very interesting!! Thanks so much!!!
     

  17. Crafty Fox

    Crafty Fox Tele-Holic

    962
    Nov 25, 2011
    Perth Australia
    When I was a carpenter/joiner in the UK, 30-odd years ago, we often used a glue called 'Cascamite' which was a light brown powder, mixed with water; I wonder if that's the kind of stuff Fender used in the earlier days?
     

  18. fletch

    fletch Tele-Meister

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    Jun 26, 2007
    Wollongong, NSW , Australia
    Hi Gil, If I wanted to mix my own Olympic White using only the Stewmac pigments, do you have any tips to get me in the ballpark ?

    Cheers

    Fletch
     

  19. Casual_Reader

    Casual_Reader Tele-Holic

    835
    Jan 10, 2009
    Ohio
    an ad from the 40s:

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    urea formaldehyde - they list it currently as "amber" in color.

    could be?
     

  20. preeb

    preeb Poster Extraordinaire Vendor Member

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    Sep 10, 2008
    Sonoran Desert
    99% white + 1% royal blue.
    Not sure about the SM colors though...
     

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