1950/51 Esquire for sale in Toronto Ex Nacho Banos

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  1. warrent

    warrent Friend of Leo's

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    A 1950/51 esquire for sale at Capsule Music in Toronto
    https://www.capsulemusic.com/retail/detail.php?id=2644

    Hallelujah ! To see a guitar this early is a thrill and this one has a neat history . This guitar was owned by Nacho Banos ( he wrote the amazing Blackguard book) and we have email correspondence from him confirming his ownership.The body of the guitar has been refinished by Mark Jenny of MJT and the neck has been lightly oversprayed , it's also had a pro refret . The guitar has the original pencil neck date of 4/21/51 , the 1 piece ash body has no channel route so its early (1950), a neck pickup was added before the refinish with 2 small screw holes in neck cavity. The bridge pickup , saddles, bridge plate, control plate, pots, and selector are original . The closed tuners , pickguard , neck plate and screws are original . There are also some numbers lightly etched into the original bridge plate . This piece of history is a joy to play and sounds just incredible !!! w/ reissue brown 50's case

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  2. archetype

    archetype Fiend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Seems pretty cool.

    I never understood the "call or e-mail for price" thing. Maybe the price on request approach add imaginary value for some buyers.
     
  3. PlainAllman

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    This might be a dumb question but why does it have a selector switch with only one pickup?
     
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    No question is dumb.

    Copied from:
    https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Fender_Esquire_Basics

    the Esquire has a 3-way switch, plus a master volume and master tone configuration. But on a single-pickup guitar, how do you use a “pickup selector” switch? Leo’s idea was to use the 3-way switch as a kind of tone-shaper. Here are the specifics:

    • Position #1. This corresponds to the solo bridge-pickup position on a Tele. On the Esquire, however, the pickup is routed through the volume control only, with the tone control bypassed for a hotter and louder lead sound with even more high-end.
    • Position #2. In this middle setting, the Esquire’s pickup is routed through the volume and tone control—identical to position #1 on a standard Telecaster. It sounds a bit warmer compared to the Esquire’s #1 position.
    • Position #3. Here, the tone control is again bypassed and the Esquire’s pickup is routed through the volume control and a fixed “treble roll-off ” capacitor/resistor network for a very dark tone that also has a slightly decreased output. Leo intended this as a “bass preset” that would allow the ’50s guitar player to enter bass territory by simply flipping the 3-way switch.
     
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    Deeve Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Not a dumb question -
    <deleted my nearly accurate answer - a much better one arrived as I was pecking in my observations>

    Peace - Deeve
     
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    Very cool, thank you for the explanation. Mr. Fender was a genius.
     
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    How much does an instrument of this vintage usually bring? I would guess in the 10’s of thousands easily.
     
  8. warrent

    warrent Friend of Leo's

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    A mint esquire Like this would be 25 to 35 thousand. This one is less because of the refret and refinish.
    How much less I don't know. It's 20 minutes from my house and if it's priced how I think it is I'd be to tempted to buy it. So I'm not asking.
     
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    They're only 15 minutes from my place, but I won't be buying it either. Mark and Pete usually put the prices up on they're site, even expensive items. I'm guessing this one is priced quite high since it's call or email for a price. :( Cool Esquire! Too bad it's been re-finished though...
     
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    Yes he was!!
     
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    I’ve tried doing searches for production numbers and came up empty. Does anyone know how many of these would have been made? It really is an amazing piece of history to me.
     
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    Where were you looking for a Serial Number?.......my best guess is 1786 ....? the 17 is clearer in the other image below .......so 1786 is ballpark for 50/51

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    They made roughly 5500 bridges with serial numbers before the number moved to the neck plate sometime in 54. Hope that helps
     
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    I went by this afternoon and had a quick look at this guitar. It was pretty cool. The neck wasn't that thick at the nut up to the 5th fret and then it was the thicker feel I was expecting. It was heavier than my tele (which is about 6 3/4 pounds) so I'd guess 7.5 to 8 lbs? I didn't plug it into an amp, so no idea what it sounds like.

    It had Philips screws in the neck mounting and bridge. I thought a 50/51 would have all slotted?

    I didn't love the refin/relic, but I seldom appreciate MJT's work.

    The price is $35,000 Canadian, I assume. So that's a couple hundred bucks US. :rolleyes:
     
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    Phillips head screws? Uhhh no. I believe a black guard tele has slotted screws.

    My Nacho Banos made relic replica tele has slotted screws. A nacho made guitar is 99% accurate to a real tele. Hard to find but costs about $5k. Better than a master built custom shop . Closest thing out there to the real thing .
     
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    If I were actually thinking about purchasing this guitar I think I'd ask Nacho about it first.
    He actually seems to be fairly approachable, and is a member here.
     
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    1951 is the start of the transition to Phillips head screws.
     
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    Can you post email from author Nacho Banos verifying provenance?


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  20. Adam Wolfaardt

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    35k is way too much for a refin
     
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