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Maggot
Registered: March 2003
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 735
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Review Date: Thu May 22, 2003
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 4
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Loud, well made, 6v6 amps like them
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There are other Weber Speakers that I like better
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This speaker also has a different name now, although you can ask for a c12n and they'll know what your talking about (it's in the Weber 150 series) This is supposedly Weber's standard for Deluxe Reverb and other Blackface-style amps. I got this speaker trying to split the difference between a Weber P-12-Q and a Weber California.
I found it to be neither here nor there. It didn't have the extraordinary sensitivity of the p-12-q or the shiny bigness of the California. I tried this in a Deluxe Reverb and an Ampeg Reverberocket. I ended up prefering both of the other speakers. However, I see why other folks like it - it's got good solid bass, plenty of mids to help out scooped sounding Fenders and a smooth high end. It sounded better for clean and in-between sounds than dirty.
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Bloozcat
Registered: April 2003
Location: Jensen Beach, Florida
Posts: 90
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Review Date: Thu September 14, 2006
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 9
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Clear, articulate, punchy, with a solid bottom end.
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Doesn't do British tones well, but it wasn't designed for that.
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I picked these speakers up several years ago, used, when they were still designated as C12N's. They are the 25 watt models. I have them in a semi-open back Avatar cabinet made of birch plywood. I bought these speakers specifically for a '65 blackface Bandmaster that I own. The Bandmaster is equipped with all NOS tubes.
The tone is very clear, sweet, and articulate in an amp like the Bandmaster which is known for it's clean headroom. It appears to be a very efficient speaker as well as it is quite loud compared to other speakers I've tried in the same application. My amp is equipped with NOS Philips 7581-A output tubes which enhance the clean headroom further. When pushed the amp delivers a very nice power tube growl that the C12N's seem to thrive on. The bass is solid and punchy, and the highs are crisp, clear and sweet without any hint of excess brightness or spikey-ness. The mids are smooth and well balanced with the highs and the lows. The speaker responds similarly to a vintage C12N Jensen except that the Weber has a bit more of a shimmer and a presence to it. IMHO, this speaker delivers the classic fender tone beautifully.
I have also tested these speakers with a Crate Vintage club 30, a VC 20, an Epiphone Valve Jr. head, and an Epiphone Blues Custom 30 . In each case, the speakers sounded very good, with no loss of clarity or punch. They definitely reproduce the particular tone of each amp without loosing focus, or becoming mushy or inarticulate. I do prefer a Celestion G12H30 in the EL84 based amps because they are more British voiced (except the VJ and BC 30), but the C12N's still retain their character.
If you are looking for classic American tone from your blackface or silverface Fender, the Weber C12N will deliver. In fact, in any application where a crisp, clear, punchy, and well balanced tone is desirable, the C12N would be a good choice. As mentioned earlier, this speaker is voiced for classic American type tone, and it is in these applications where the C12N excells.
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