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TDPRI History

History of the Telecaster Discussion Page Reissue (TDPRI)

The Prequel

At the beginning of "Internet Time" (approximately 1995) guitar websites were pretty much nonexistent. However, after the introduction of the 1st graphic browser — Netscape’s Navigator — guitar fan sites started to be created. A Telecaster enthusiast named Ken Goldstein bought a Tele in the mid 90s and fell in love with it. So much so that he launched a page on the internet he called the Telecaster Appreciation Page (TAP). His intent was to hook up with other Tele owners/lovers, exchange stories, pics, etc.

In short order though, Ken was being flooded with questions and emails, as folks just assumed he was a Tele expert since he owned the page. The fact that he didn’t consider himself an expert coupled with his job causing him to travel more and more led him to install some free discussion board software and he called this link the Telecaster Discussion Page.

It ran this way for a very short time, certainly less than a year, before our original group of 10 or 12 became dozens and Ken couldn’t handle the board any longer. He asked for a volunteer to take it over and a young man (15?) named Noam Pikelny stepped forward. In no time the board really grew in popularity. At one high point in Spring, 1999 a number of members got together and put in donations to buy Noam the webmaster an expensive Custom Shop Fender "Nocaster" guitar. The guitar was given to Noam in Nashville when a number of TDP members got together with Fender’s Nashville Artist Rep, James Pennebaker and session players like Reggie Young and Bill Hullett. Happy days, indeed!

As Noam’s Telecaster Discussion Page (the TDP) grew it became more and more difficult for a High School student to handle. Frequently, flame wars and fights would erupt. Many times it was a "civil war" between those that wanted the TDP to be ALL TELECASTER and nothing else and those that wanted to talk about all kinds of guitars and players.

Finally, in an attempt to control the situation Noam posted new rules: Telecaster Discussion ONLY! This caused a stir but calmed down until one day someone posted a thread about Jeff Beck. Now Jeff Beck is a Telecaster player, but that didn’t matter to some and they jumped the poster’s case pretty hard. This created a huge flame war with everyone on the page giving their opinion of the rules, the posters, Jeff Beck and you name it.

Suddenly the next day, on Saturday, May 1, 1999 there was no TDP anymore. Just a note saying it was closed and that Noam was graduating and going off to college and he couldn’t or didn’t want to deal with the TDP fighting anymore.

A Reissue of a Classic

That day when the earth stood still and the TDP went away was a shock to hundreds of folks all over the world. Suddenly, emails were flying among "former" members. On the few other guitar websites out there you’d find dozens of people lamenting the loss. What to do, what to do?

Paul Green was one of these people. As a new Tele owner, he had purchased his first Telecaster (a 1993 Custom Shop Silver Sparkle Tele) in late 1998 and joined Noam’s TDP in Oct or Nov 1998. When the TDP went away Paul was shocked and searching for a replacement. Instead, by Sunday afternoon he was cooking up an idea.

Paul owned an Advertising Agency had a website for his business and was designing websites for clients. So, his basic knowledge of website building gave him the knowledge to recreate the TDP. And, he knew just enough to get the simple bulletin board software, like Noam’s, running. He worked on the site all day in secret.

After some testing the next morning, Paul contacted one or two former members of Noam’s TDP and had them do some testing. He needed a name and had actually put TDP-II on the headers in the program. But TDP member "Silvertone" suggested "TDP Reissue" because of the popularity of the Fender ’52 Reissue Tele at that time. So, at 11 am, Monday, May 3, 1999 Paul unveiled the TDP-RI.

Word spread super fast about the TDP-RI and old members showed up all day long. That first day, over 1000 posts had been made on the TDP-RI.

It didn’t take long until Paul’s TDP-RI was as busy as Noam’s old TDP. And it was growing fast. One of the first things Paul did was to tell everyone that non-telecaster posts were A-OK with him. Of course, this caused some fights, but everyone was too glad just to have the TDP back up and running again. It wasn’t long until Paul registered www.tdpri.com domain name. And that’s when the name changed from TDP-RI to TDPRI.

Here’s what the page looked like back then:
Web Archive from Nov, 2000

Paul put the TDPRI though a number of changes. Adding new forums so that there was a Tele Discussion Page but also a Strat Discussion Page and a Technical Discussion Page, etc. During the first year fights broke out when Paul started selling T-Shirts and accepting donations after he received a $2,000 bill on his credit card for Extra Bandwidth Usage one month.

New Software Points the Way

From that quick beginning in 1999, the website moved from its initial bulletin board software to newer PHP/SQL software in March 2003. This was an important change. A web community is the sum total of the combined knowledge contained in all the member’s posts. Yet, with the TDPRI’s initial software thousands of posts had to be deleted every year. The software being used created massive files too large to store and to search. With the change to PHP/SQL software posts could be saved indefinitely and search engines could catalog every word of them.

Then in June, 2006 the TDPRI changed software again to our current platform. This change added hundreds of new features and opportunities to improve the TDPRI — soon the TDPRI was adding photo galleries, classified ads, articles and gear reviews. The site moved from one shared server to many other larger, more powerful dedicated severs every 2 to 3 years to accommodate the ever growing thousands of people concurrently online at the TDPRI.

Fundraiser Becomes Giveaway

Back in 2000 when the TDPRI needed a fundraiser to help pay off it’s founders $2,000 excess bandwidth usage bill the site depended solely on the generosity of it’s members. But in 2001 it occurred to Paul to spice up the Fundraiser with some guitar giveaways. He sent emails to half a dozen companies asking for free samples of their goods. To his surprise they said, "Sure" and the Fundraiser/Giveaway was born. Each year since more and more items have been donated for the Fundraiser and then given away to those that have donated. To date, approximately $100,000 worth of items have been given away in the giveaways staged each year.


Original TDP founder Noam Pikilney (left) and TDPRI founder Paul Green in 2004

The Future and Beyond

As of May, 2014 the TDPRI has over 6.5 million posts, 105,000 registered members and 75 million page views every year. And, now the TDPRI has eight sister guitar gear websites as part of GearTalk Network — a network of guitar gear websites operated by the TDPRI’s founder.

No matter how much the TDPRI grows, it will always be a website where tens of thousands of all ages from all over the world congregate every day to share their love of Leo Fender’s first and simplest guitar… and to celebrate their friendship and care for each other.

PS. Original TDP founder Noam Pikilny grew up, switched to banjo and has become one of the premier banjo players in modern roots music. You can find his solo CDs on Amazon and iTunes and after a stint in the band “Leftover Salmon” he joined Chris Thile of “Nickel Creek” fame to become a key part of “The Punch Brothers.” You can catch Noam on various radio and TV performances and playing with his friend comedian and banjo player Steve Martin. More about Noam or follow him at twitter.com/NoamPikelny

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29 Responses to “TDPRI History”
  1. scosystems scosystems says:

    What a great history, and a very interesting read!

    • DocG says:

      Wow! Noam Pikelny, the banjo player from Leftover Salmon and the Punch Brothers, ran TDP? Who knew!

      • pdxjoel says:

        I scratched my head all the way through, thinking “I know that name…I KNOW that name…who is he?” Funny, didn’t see TDPRI listed in his bio on the Punch Brothers site. :)

    • I looked at that old page and came accross so many names from the past. It made me a little sad. People come and go and we’ve lost a few (RIP Spyder!) but the TDPRI keeps rolling on. Thank you, Paul, from the bottom of my Tele pickin’ heart!

  2. ROADMAN ROADMAN says:

    as Johnny Carson would say…I did not know that.. great read and historic too yum yum

  3. flag72 flag72 says:

    is Noam still around,Im amaze that a 15 year old would do such a fine job, congrat Noam hope you still enjoy your telecaster
    god bless
    Daniel :)

  4. This is all just incredible. It the whole world was as kind as gracious as the members of this site…

  5. JoeyV JoeyV says:

    OMG…I can remember some great “spririted discussion’s” on the old TDP…..I used to spend most of my work day goofing around on the page while working for IBM….I can remember around 96 deciding to strip the ten coats of mystery finish of my old tele and everybody just kind of walking me through it all……every stroke of the scraper I had 25 guys there with me! Some great fun was had and I enjoyed hosting a TDPRI get together in my yard one year ….met some great folks

  6. Retropicker says:

    This was an interesting and honest read taht is much appreciated. I never knew that about Noam.

  7. yangounet says:

    nice story.Begining times are magic.

  8. bmoran bmoran says:

    Wow, first day on the forum and I find one of the best written stories. I think I’m going to like it here!

  9. digmeout says:

    I was a original TDP member and remember when it went down. I was kind of panicked as I was in the middle of
    my first parts build. With info I had gleaned form the TDP I was able to finish the guitar and it turned out pretty
    nice! I’ve been out of guitars for a while due to work, moving etc.. Retired now, and I’m back in it. Thinking about
    building another one. Thanks to Paul Green and others (I’m sure) I have an old friend back!

  10. DavidSchwab says:

    You mean Netscape Navigator, not Mozilla. And the first version was called Mosaic Netscape (1994). Mozilla was Netscape 5 from 1998. Now of course Mozilla is known as Firefox.

  11. sqrat51 says:

    Thanks for the “In the Beginning…” story. I worked with computers since long before the Internet and it is always interesting to read accounts of these sites that began – and generally still function – as a labor of love. More work than most people realize. Keep up the good work! I like this place.

  12. Rod Parsons Rod Parsons says:

    TDPRI..Officially launched on May 3RD, which is today…. Happy Birthday! And happy birthday to me too, as May 3RD is my birthday also… Awesome!

  13. Vintagebrit Vintagebrit says:

    Really interesting and makes me feel more part of the Telecaster Family.
    Thanks for this brilliant site and invaluable resource.

  14. I remember the day Noam got his “relicaster”. He posted an MP3 or wav of him playing it. I used to post here under a different name back then. I have had four different TDP and TDPRI names over the years.

  15. IPLAYLOUD IPLAYLOUD says:

    I remember the first days,
    Following a thread could get you dizzy with everything moving to the right!
    Somewhere around here, I have a pick that Noam sent me with “Twang’s the THANG!” on it.

  16. Hello to all her! I am a new member and I`d just like to introduce myself!

  17. I was on the old TDP too, back in the day… then on the RI under a different handle for awhile, and now as backalleyblues… Happy Birthday to one of the absolute niceest sites on net, and still going strong (and hopefully, for many more years to come!)

    Franc Robert

  18. Oh, yeah. I just remembered that I contributed to Noam’s Nocaster, so I guess I’ve been around longer then I thought.

    Happy Birthday, TDPRI!

  19. Jimcord1 Jimcord1 says:

    Happy B-day; thanks for sharing your history.
    Made me think back to working at a media co. during the birth of the Internet; from 93-02. Exciting times, we were trying anything and everything, couple of them are still going strong, most long gone.
    Glad TDPRI is among the early efforts that’s also still going strong.
    It’s my favorite of all the guitar/music enthusiast sites.
    Here’s to many more years!

  20. simonsp simonsp says:

    Thanks for posting this interesting history of TDPRI, I never realised it was so convoluted! And a big thank you to all those people who keep it running as the best and nicest hang-out on the internet.

  21. younkint younkint says:

    Happy Birthday to the best site on the whole Internet!!!!

  22. Deeve Deeve says:

    Thanks for bringing this site back and re-shaping it to a community where we can kid each other a little but keep the hate-talk somewhere else. And, May _4_ is my daughter’s 14th birthday. I’ll be posting somewhere (bad dog?) about how to best encourage this young lefty to accept an invitation to play bass at her new high-school…
    Peace – Deeve

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