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Old November 17th, 2011, 02:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I think I have reached a new level of Edge-ness...

I played a three song segment of tonights worship set with just 2 strings, some hammer-ons, a fulldrive, and delay. And tonight, I got the most complements on my sound, EVER! It did sound great, with me leading with rhythmic/atmospheric arpeggios on the B and e strings, and the rhythm player holding down power chords. It kinda makes you be creative, to work with that little...

I was just thinking the entire time of how screwed I'd be if one of my strings broke! ;)

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Old November 17th, 2011, 07:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Congrats on your delay-heavy, two string chord achievement! Maybe you could just take the low E, A, and D strings off and replace them with a second set of high E, B, and G strings, incase you break a string!
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Old November 17th, 2011, 09:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I played a three song segment of tonights worship set with just 2 strings, some hammer-ons, a fulldrive, and delay. And tonight, I got the most complements on my sound, EVER!
Isn't that how it is, Less Is Better. I try and get that thru to the other guitar player but it's a real struggle sometimes.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 12:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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WOW! Was hoping the "U2 does Jesus" fad would have ended by now.
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Old November 19th, 2011, 08:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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WOW! Was hoping the "U2 does Jesus" fad would have ended by now.
Oh, far from it!
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Old November 20th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd never seen that video before, almost spit my coffee out all over my computer! Now that's funny!
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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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My guess is that the Edge would fare better through most of our rigs better than we would fare through his...
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Old November 21st, 2011, 12:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Once you learn how to do it, it's great!
I have yet to be able to use it in a song at service though.
Darn gospel...
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Check out the Neil Young soundtrack on the Jim Jarmusch film "Dead Man".
I'd think his haunting expressive abuse of delay there might spark some interesting ideas that might fit well in a Gospel piece.
Or not, don't know for sure but it's a very cool soundtrack, surely spiritual...
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 12:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Once you learn how to do it, it's great!
I have yet to be able to use it in a song at service though.
Darn gospel...
Friend, I'll take the Gospel.

We only do Gospel tunes occasionally and our sound and abilities are, uh, excuse the expression, white, but we and the congregation enjoy them.

As for the U2 thing .... We avoid it entirely. There's a just say no approach to heavy delay.
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My guess is that the Edge would fare better through most of our rigs better than we would fare through his...
Maybe so, but I can carry out everything I play with (house amp, so don't have that) with one guitar strapped on my back in a gig bag, another carried in a hard case and my 2nd hand carrying a small duffle bag with everything else.
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Old December 24th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Maybe so, but I can carry out everything I play with (house amp, so don't have that) with one guitar strapped on my back in a gig bag, another carried in a hard case and my 2nd hand carrying a small duffle bag with everything else.
And that makes you the winner?
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And that makes you the winner?
Same here. I start a thread on a playing style based on simplicity and you start an argument with us about how simpler is better?
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No, this makes you 'The Winner'

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Yikes!

Two thoughts here; first, it's good to learn and to be able to do the Edge/Hillsongs United .8th delay technique, as well as the faster 2/4 Albert Lee/John Jorgenson use of the same setting in a different context.

Second, it would be ok if Matt Redman rewrote an old song to say: "When the music fades, and all [of the delays] have slipped away...."

I like a little delay here and there, but after seeing both United and the main Hillsongs band live in full arena mode over the last nine months, I'm happy to have a .8th fast for a while.
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Friend, I'll take the Gospel.

We only do Gospel tunes occasionally and our sound and abilities are, uh, excuse the expression, white, but we and the congregation enjoy them.

As for the U2 thing .... We avoid it entirely. There's a just say no approach to heavy delay.
Well, color has no meaning to music friend.
I think I could work in a U2 sound to Gospel music, but the problem is that our church doesn't have set songs.
Meaning...they never play anything the same way twice.
So preparing to play something ahead of time is a waste of time and there's no way to setup for a song.

Lol, we have no musical direction...
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I don't move away from a worship style just because I get tired of it, or get too much of it, or it's too mainstream to be considered edgy anymore.

Since there isn't anything biblical about the type of guitar playing to be done to worship God, decisions about this are purely centered on today's culture. Therefore, the purpose of choosing a certain style should be to attract unbelievers to the gospel. If you're in a center city urban culture, you might do rap, yuppy suburbia - U2 vibe, Retirement community - hymns and early praise choruses, etc. Do what people like.

I love the sound the OP is talking about. And so do most of the people that attend our church. So we'll keep playing that way until the demographic or the pop culture changes. Doesn't bother me - whatever brings them to Jesus. If it's something so foreign to me that I can't enjoy it, or I am incapable of doing it well, I'll stop serving in that capacity - or go somewhere I can serve, if that's how I feel led.
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