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Tele-Afflicted
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Sneaking secular licks into worship tunes
I've seen a few comments in recent threads about secular bits worked into worship songs, which I love to do, too. I think it's kind of subversive fun in that the "cool" people (however you might define that) hear it and go "Hey, cool." whereas it just goes past the others unnoticed. I don't know if y'all would want to make this an add-to thread but it might be interesting to have an ever growing list of licks for future reference. If you like the idea, reply with "quote" and add your favorites to the bottom of the list. I'll start:
1. All The Earth Will Sing Your Praises: China Grove intro works perfectly. Watch all the heads pop up when you start! Hilarious.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
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some of journey's licks from "faithfully" i have found fit into some of the slower songs. not with the same amount of gain, of course. but maybe i just like it because it's an interesting combination. hah
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Minneapolis
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Lord Let Your Glory Fall - use the Sweet Child of Mine riff played really slow in between the verses.
We Want to See Jesus Lifted High - use as many Journy Anyway You Want it riffs and solo's in this song. It's like it's the same tune. |
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Tele-Afflicted
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I get what you are doing, but I always play off/around the melody, the radio version or stick with pretty stock stuff, unless there's something in a chart that catches my eye.
Without trying to divert or break forum rules, I think breaking the congregation from their worship by making them think of a secular song is probably not in the right spirit of worship. Learn from every guitarist, of course, but don't mimic something you know will take away from the reason for being in worship.
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Orange County
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My previous worship team leader liked solos, often requesting solos on songs that didn't have solos. It got pretty stressful, having to make up 2-3 solos between Wednesday rehearsal and service. On more than a few occassions, I snuck in a few bars of Pink Floyd when I ran out of ideas for the solo.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ontario
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Lots of religious songs and hymns come from folk and blues songs, as well as from classical (and other era) pieces. This kind of borrowing has been happening for many, many generations. I don't think of licks, chord progressions, bits of similar melody, or any group of notes as secular, they're just notes. Same goes for the many styles involved in church/religious music...they're just styles. What matters is how they are used and intended.
Peace, Mike. |
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Deep in the heart of Parma, Ohio
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"A Mighty Fortress" was allegedly written to the tune of a well-known German drinking song of the time. We used to do a song called "Jesus, You are my Best Friend" that had the same intro as Baba O'Riley. Not sure anybody knew it but the rythm section.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Seattle, USA
Age: 29
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When you play "I Am Free," you can literally play "Where the Streets Have No Name." It is the exact same song. Intro licks, verse, bridge, everything. Seriously. I'm surprised their was never a law suit.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lebanon, TN
Age: 41
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I'm wondering if we're talking the same song here? If I knew the other song, "Streets With No Name," it would be easier for me to tell. |
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Tele-Holic
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Earth Wind and Fire's That's the Way of the World as it was written with completely different lyrics. Plenty of that type of thing has gone on in church history. Some examples:
What Child is This/Greensleeves Londonderry Aire/Danny Boy/He Looked Beyond My Faults and Saw My Needs At the Cross/At the Bar (at the bar where I smoked my first cigar)
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Georgia, USA
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Contemporary Worship consists of all types of music with Christian lyrics. In our church, people like rock based songs and those are the ones that result in cheers and actual signs of life in the congregation. You get them excited about one or two lively songs and then move into the phase where that energy is guided into praise and worship, and excitement about the sermon. I think that the combination results in worshipers who are actually awake and receptive.
We usually have about 200-250 people in the early P&W service who like the upbeat songs. The ones that allow me to rock out with a down and dirty overdriven solo generally get the best response. It's all about making worship fun that gets the results, IMHO. Then, you can channel the excitement down to a receptive response to the sermon. |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Seattle, USA
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"Where the Streets Have No Name," is the first track off of U2's 1987 multi-platinum selling album "The Joshua Tree." Here is a link to the official music video where U2 plays the song from a roof top to a spontaneous crowd of Los Angelinos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UiY3XsRvK4 You will immediately recognize the main chorus riff from "I Am Free." I love "I Am Free," by the way. It's a great song with a great, scripture based message. |
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Sep 2005
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How come half of the Worship Service threads are about 'getting away with something'?
SG and those devil horns, wah pedal and now secular licks. I just don't understand why it is so important to drag other things into a church service. I'm not being ugly, just please explain why playing in church brings on the urge to push the accepted limits. Beyond me...
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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My neighbor and I who are both guitar playing converted sinners talk about this frequently. Satan drug us through the bars and secular music to serve his purpose. We believe God gets vicarious joy that now as disciples of Christ the tables have turned and we are using Satan's teachings against him - that's pretty awesome. Furthermore, I always remember from the 40 Days of Purpose Rick Warren saying that God loves all kinds of music as long as they are used for HIS Glory and HIS Kingdom. I think that says it ALL!
Rock on For the Glory of God! |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Apr 2008
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