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Old July 15th, 2013, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there, I'm hoping you guys would be able to help me date some what I believe to be vintage Tele pickups, here are the pictures I've got so far, let me know if there are any more I should take. Don't let the vintage noiseless box fool you, the vintage noiseless are currently installed in the guitar, the "hopefully originals" were shipped in the noiseless box.

Please let me know any opinions you have on the manufacturer and date of origin of these pickups.
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Old July 15th, 2013, 10:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You know I had an entirely different expectation of the content given this thread title!
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Old July 15th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't date pickups... even if they are single.
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IMO --- if it has plastic wiring I don't consider it a vintage p/u.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hehe, never thought of how ridiculous a subject pickup dating is out of context. Any chance you guys can tell me when they started using plastic wiring? These were supposed to be the original pickups off an early 70s Tele.

Also, the plastic wire within a grounding sleeve struck me as odd, it's the first time I've seen anything of the sort, but I honestly haven't been paying attention to pickup design for very long.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 11:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You may find something on the link below.

Plastic wiring isn't sixties. I have cloth in a 68 so would imagine it started in the seventies at some point as mentioned but don't know how it would be possible to actually date them.

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Old July 16th, 2013, 01:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Plastic wiring started in early 69. Those look like later 70's, especially since the bridge pup has a braided shield, which the earlier 70's pups didn't have.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 01:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I've never seen a real Fender bridge pickup with that braided wiring.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 03:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've never seen a real Fender bridge pickup with that braided wiring.
The single coil of the 70s Telecaster Custom had braided wire (just like the neck humbucker). That is also why it is so long, it had to reach the selector switch. The dark grey bottom is also typical for the 70s. That pickup is probably dated with an ink stamp that can be seen when you lift the bottom plate and look under the paper tape. The DCR seems a bit low (?). Don't know about the neck pickup. The edges of the cover are not rounded like the typical 70s neck pickup. 1975 and later have a thicker bottom flatwork and taller magnets (like the Strat). But I do not see that here.
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The single coil of the 70s Telecaster Custom had braided wire (just like the neck humbucker). That is also why it is so long, it had to reach the selector switch. The dark grey bottom is also typical for the 70s. That pickup is probably dated with an ink stamp that can be seen when you lift the bottom plate and look under the paper tape. The DCR seems a bit low (?). Don't know about the neck pickup. The edges of the cover are not rounded like the typical 70s neck pickup. 1975 and later have a thicker bottom flatwork and taller magnets (like the Strat). But I do not see that here.
I've never heard about braided Fender bridge pickup leads. In the Tele Custom schematics the bridge pickup goes straight to the volume pot guite nearby.
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I've never heard about braided Fender bridge pickup leads. In the Tele Custom schematics the bridge pickup goes straight to the volume pot guite nearby.
I might be wrong about that part then. But I am sure I have seen it on a Tele Custom (it had one of the pots acting like a master volume). There are also quite a few images of the braided wire on the bridge PU on the net:



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Old July 25th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So I finally checked under the tape and it seems to be a '73 pickup. Could anyone tell me if the other pictures I've got in this thread are consistent with a '73?

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/vintage-t...ht-choice.html
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Old July 26th, 2013, 02:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I might be wrong about that part then. But I am sure I have seen it on a Tele Custom (it had one of the pots acting like a master volume). There are also quite a few images of the braided wire on the bridge PU on the net:



Ok, I was wrong and now I know :-) Thanks.
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It all looks consistant with mid 70's pickups to me.
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