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Old June 22nd, 2009, 01:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1968 -- psychedelic old school acid rock guitar instrumental

This is recorded on my homebuilt TDA2030 guitar amplifier. I am playing a 1974 Electra Super Rock 2245 guitar into a Umble preamplifier and the TDA2030. The speaker is a 12" WGS Veteran 30 in a Lopo Line closed back cabinet I just got yesterday. Just guitar and amplifier, no effects on this one except the Tillman preamplifier that I built..

Bass is my trusty 1974 Ibanez Jazz Bass through my The Fillmore pedal and straight into the mixing board. Guitar parts are miked "dry" with a microphone in front of the amp and straight into the Yamaha AW1600 Professional Audio Workstation.




Tempo is 67 beats per minute.

I HOPE YOU LIKE IT!

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Old June 24th, 2009, 11:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok...this may sound harsh but if you spent as much time playing as you must do building the amplifier then I'm sure you'd sound great. As it is, there's a lot of bum notes and bad phrasing in there. How long have you been playing?
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Old June 24th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum I am honored you could grace my humble efforts with your third post as a new TDPRI member.

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Old June 24th, 2009, 01:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"like, whatever man."

it sounds just like the guy down the hall in my dorm circa 1977...
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Old June 24th, 2009, 02:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I quite like it I'd like to hear some haunting echo's or maybe repeats on the guitar sometthing like the early "bevis frond " stuff,like the tone of the jazz bass too.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 02:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Perfect response!
(Enjoyed the recording, too!)

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Old June 24th, 2009, 02:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like this recording as well...

I definitely see room for improvement in a few areas, but thats just my ears.
bum notes and bad phrasing? he is aiming for 1968! when jimi rubbed his strat all over his micstand, many people thought 'terrible noise' while many others thought 'how original and intriguing' - I mean, we only know what we like.

This would be a great jump off to work on for a while, rethink a few notes that stick out, smooth over a few areas where the sound harshes harder than others, and maybe thicken that tone up. I liked it though, these are just suggestions meant to help.

keep it up man, I can't build gear or play for more than a few minutes non-stop without getting monotonous and pentatonic-y, so there is nothing for ME to hate on here.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 03:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm sure I must sound like an arsehole however....

I think it's just been bugging me recently how many people seem to spend SO much time and effort on the techy parts of guitar playing (amps/effects/this resistor, that capacitor/leads, pickups and so on..) rather than simply getting really good at playing it with feeling and inventiveness. I guess you're post kinda sneaked up in the middle of my frustration. And does the fact that I've only posted 3 times mean I have to be all polite and subordiate?

The backing rhythm is fine and dandy but come on man, you can hear the lead is pretty off at times right?

The worst thing people can do (IMO) is praise that which could do with improvement, especially when asked. That's how all those crazies end up on X-Factor!!
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Old June 24th, 2009, 03:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I couldn't sit throught it all. Reminded me way too much of my old aimless-blues-jam phase.
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Old June 25th, 2009, 02:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm sure I must sound like an arsehole however....

I think it's just been bugging me recently how many people seem to spend SO much time and effort on the techy parts of guitar playing (amps/effects/this resistor, that capacitor/leads, pickups and so on..) rather than simply getting really good at playing it with feeling and inventiveness. I guess you're post kinda sneaked up in the middle of my frustration. And does the fact that I've only posted 3 times mean I have to be all polite and subordiate?

The backing rhythm is fine and dandy but come on man, you can hear the lead is pretty off at times right?

The worst thing people can do (IMO) is praise that which could do with improvement, especially when asked. That's how all those crazies end up on X-Factor!!
some guys like to build, some like to play, some like to collect, some are professional musicians who come here to hang out and have fun....

the one constant is that we are respectful of each other. Most guys have a sense of their overall competence... for the most part, if you find yourself getting mad... you are looking at it from a vantage point that won't serve you.

Ignore things you don't like. Nothing bad will happen if you don't respond or criticize... but, you run the risk of needlessly hurting someone's feelings if you just randomly show up and blast away. Your post count indicates to other guys that they don't know you yet... you could be anyone... for the guys who've been around awhile.. they have developed a relationship... does that make sense? Say you are standing around with your friends and a new guy comes up and says, "Man, that is an ugly shirt!" It would be off putting, right? But, if one of his friends said it... everyone might laugh and say, "yeah, that shirt is not quite makin' it"... no harm... just basic social skills amigo.

Norcott here likes to make these really cool pedals and he LIKES the kind of music he is making. If you don't like it... there are millions (no foolin') of threads and posts here... go find one you like...

Everyone comes for their own reasons. I'm sure you have reasons to be here, right? Surely they aren't to find random threads of guys playing psychedelic guitar and share your frustration...

Remind yourself of why you are here and pursue your happiness, not your frustration... The real world is for all of that stuff....
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Well stated getbent. And I really enjoyed the music wnorcutt. Something about the feel and tone of that really gets next to me. Maybe because I'm from that era.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I love that era.. My biggest regret is not having been born at a time to have been able to experience it. This is a cool track that has a pretty cool groove to it :)

to the critics : Sure, one can always find some mistakes or some such thing to criticize.. Too bad we dont all sound like some uber-good virtuoso. Sure you can sit there and crit it to death. Or you can just sit back, turn off your inner critic and just enjoy the sounds coming at you. Feel the groove! There is so much right with this track that it more than makes up for what is wrong with it... Its kinda like looking at a sketch by leonardo and saying "Dude, he was crap, look at that line! Its all wobbly!". Music is only intended to be surgically cut down into chunks and surgically analized when youre trying to replicate or learn from that particular piece.. But if youre listening to music, you gotta lose yourself in it. Just have fun :D Also, I've listened to great amounts of the bands of that era and many many many of them have worse sounds than this guy is making :) Its all cool man, grab a rug and smoke a jay jay.. Join us in the ether!
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Fair point Getbent, well made.

I will keep it to myself until asked.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 11:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Sounds dang good to me.
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I thought it sounded cool. I dig the old school tone and the feel of the whole song. I think it would be cool if you added some old school analog delay, just my opinion though.
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Holy smokes, this is authentic. Memories of Big Brother, New Improved Blue Cheer, head shops, the endless jam sessions. You sound like you were there.
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Old September 21st, 2009, 06:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks. I grew up listening to this stuff. I was 11 in 1968 but I have a brother who is 10 years older than me who had a lot of records. I was listening to these bands at age 10. The other thing is I put down the guitar for 25 years and then picked it up again about a year ago. I play what I remember hearing.

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