David Gilmour and Tele

[Brownshortz]

Just came across this little clip on youtube. Its of Gilmour playing "Fat old sun" on his last concert tour. Halfway through he swaps to his Tele for a 3 minute solo. Geat stuff...he makes it look so freakin easy.

By the way, what model Telecaster is that he's playing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0YANM9lz4c

[graham232]

Gilmour has a lot of Teles but I think this is a Custom Shop one.

This site is very good http://www.gilmourish.com/ and there has been a thread or two here already.

Gilmour used the Tele quite a bit on the 2006 tour in particular on older Floyd stuff like Arnold Laine. The live DVD is great if you are a fan.

QUOTE=Brownshortz;1083063]Just came across this little clip on youtube. Its of Gilmour playing "Fat old sun" on his last concert tour. Halfway through he swaps to his Tele for a 3 minute solo. Geat stuff...he makes it look so freakin easy.

By the way, what model Telecaster is that he's playing.[/quote]

[Brownshortz]

Woops...forgot to paste the link. edited now.

[bluesjuke]

Fast forwarded to the Tele part as I'm off to work now.

Great stuff and will watch the rest later.
Thanks!
Gilmour has always been a favorite!

[Brownshortz]

Looked around and found a TAB to the solo he plays in the clip. Seems to be fairly accurate...mind you Ive only learnt the first four bars so far. Should have it down pat in about 3 months I reckon lol.

[romo]

Great link thanks man!

[Agarn]

Originally Posted by graham232

Gilmour has a lot of Teles but I think this is a Custom Shop one.

This site is very good http://www.gilmourish.com/ and there has been a thread or two here already.

according the the site you linked to:

Fender Custom Shop Telecaster
- Blonde body with a white pickguard and maple neck.


anybody who thinks teles aren't rock guitars needs to watch this clip!

[Brownshortz]

Originally Posted by Agarn

according the the site you linked to:

Fender Custom Shop Telecaster
- Blonde body with a white pickguard and maple neck.


anybody who thinks teles aren't rock guitars needs to watch this clip!

Absolutely.....spot on. Most of the time you see Gilmour playing its with a strat. The few times I've seen him let lose with a Tele though have been pretty special. The raunchy tone he gets out of it sends shivers up my spine. He should play it more often.

[hekawi]

here's a nice still shot of him playing that tele:

[ajgus]

That's pretty much the tone I'm striving for on my Tele. Any Idea what he's got under the hood, pickup-wise on that custom shop?...

[kingalingus]

So much of that magical tone is in his fingers. He could make a ham sandwich sustain for miles:)

[jjz28]

In a book I have, "The Illustrated Directory of Guitars"-2001, there are some great pictures(courtesy of David Gilmour) of his 1950 Broadcaster ser.# 0053. I don't think he gigs that one though! Of about 50+ concerts my two favorites were Pink Floyd '87 and '94(Pulse DVD!) and David is my favorite player of all time. There are faster, but none who play with more emotion, i.e. Comfortably Numb?!

[Brent Hutto]

We've been talking about watching the Pulse DVD again some time soon. Now I think tonight's gonna be the night!

[Telemarkman]

Originally Posted by kingalingus

So much of that magical tone is in his fingers. He could make a ham sandwich sustain for miles:)

While I think he's one of the most tasteful players ever, there's no doubt that a lot of that magical tone lies in his mastery of his arsenal of effect pedals.

There's no chance he could do what he does with only his fingers...

[kingalingus]

Originally Posted by Telemarkman

While I think he's one of the most tasteful players ever, there's no doubt that a lot of that magical tone lies in his mastery of his arsenal of effect pedals.

There's no chance he could do what he does with only his fingers...

Lots of us have access to an arsenal of effects. Good luck capturing Gilmour's tone. It's mostly overdrive, delay and reverb, the most basic of ingredients. However, he has that something extra, that intangible human factor that few others have. Jeff Beck has it; Eric Johnson too. It's in the fingers and it's in the soul more than in a piece of rack gear.

[Telemarkman]

Originally Posted by kingalingus

Lots of us have access to an arsenal of effects. Good luck capturing Gilmour's tone. It's mostly overdrive, delay and reverb, the most basic of ingredients. However, he has that something extra, that intangible human factor that few others have. Jeff Beck has it; Eric Johnson too. It's in the fingers and it's in the soul more than in a piece of rack gear.

I said "his mastery" of his effects, and that he couldn't do it with "only his fingers" .

Most players, including myself, could never capture his tone no matter how many effect pedals we had. I wasn't trying to take anything away from him .

[Ed Bickert]

Originally Posted by kingalingus

Lots of us have access to an arsenal of effects. Good luck capturing Gilmour's tone. It's mostly overdrive, delay and reverb, the most basic of ingredients. However, he has that something extra, that intangible human factor that few others have. Jeff Beck has it; Eric Johnson too. It's in the fingers and it's in the soul more than in a piece of rack gear.

Kingalingus, this is in no way directed AT you. I just read all this stuff over and over from dozens of people and it drives me bonkers. I snapped! Lock me up...but here I go...

I think the whole, "the sound is in the fingers" is simply rubbish. Yes, there are certain nuances that can only be attained if the actual phyiscal playing are done in at least a similar fashion (try to emulate Wes Montgomery while using a pick). But I'll go out on a limb here, and smash that mythical Holy Grail to the ground in peices and say that virtually anyone can get any sound they want. The more populated the signal is with effects, the easier it becomes.

The Boston distortion, the Eddie van Halen distortion, The AC/DC crackiling overdrive, the mudded Metallica sound, the SRV sound, and of course, the Pink Floyd sound. Will you sound just like Dave when you play? Probably not. But will your guitar sound like it? Hell yes. Anyone who buys into the mythos that 90% of the sound is in the fingers either can't do it or doesn't have the money to try. Give Dave Gilmour a Danelcto with lipstick pickups and he won't sound like Dave Gilmour...just his playing. The "sound" is not magic. It's real. You can get it with enough money. Sorry to burst those bubbles.

Anyone see that Floyd cover band that had a concert in heavy ratation on DirecTV? THAT guy mailed the sound, nailed the style, nailed everything. Oh and of course it wasn't gilmour playing.

I have heard quite a few cover bands in my life and it's creepy how close they can get. The sound? Nailed it. But never quite the creative element. John Mayer could probably play a SRV solo note for note and you'd swear it was SRV.

But I digress. If you want to keep on believing in some crazy mystic mojo that will always be out of your grasp, then go for it. I used to beleive in Santa Clause and that was fun too. But Dave Gilmour is only human. Granted, amazingly talented, gifted, and fortunate. And though you'd be hard pressed to emulate his creativity or success...you can surely emulate something as definitive as his sound.

Flame on!

[kingalingus]

I dunno. Attack, hand pressure, timing, vibrato, style...I'd bet Gilmour would still nail Gilmour with a Danelectro. Jeff Beck is another tough sound to approximate.

[Nick JD]

Try nailing this sound without a delay effect!



The Floyd wouldn't be pink without racks of effects and super-mega-dodecaphonics!

BTW - I love Gilmore's playing and I think used wisely, effects not only give players a broader range of sounds, they also give players their signature sounds.

[TELECASTERbstrd]

Originally Posted by kingalingus

So much of that magical tone is in his fingers. He could make a ham sandwich sustain for miles:)

Now that there is a great quote!

[Ed Bickert]

Originally Posted by kingalingus

I dunno. Attack, hand pressure, timing, vibrato, style...I'd bet Gilmour would still nail Gilmour with a Danelectro. Jeff Beck is another tough sound to approximate.

Hmm...okay, here's a more realistic analogy. The intro to "Wish you Were Here" done simply on acoustic guitar. You can't seriously tell me that, all things being equal, you could tell Dave Gilmour was playing it instead of someone else? Even with his magic hands.

I will also add that people like Beck, and especially Gilmour, use effects very precisely. They don't just add it to their sound, they make it their sound.

Jeff Beck? Now that's one guy I will fully admit gets the mojority of his sound in his special playing style. But...you could still get your guitar to sound like his. Effects-wise anyway.

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by Ed Bickert

Kingalingus, this is in no way directed AT you. I just read all this stuff over and over from dozens of people and it drives me bonkers. I snapped! Lock me up...but here I go...

I think the whole, "the sound is in the fingers" is simply rubbish. Yes, there are certain nuances that can only be attained if the actual phyiscal playing are done in at least a similar fashion (try to emulate Wes Montgomery while using a pick). But I'll go out on a limb here, and smash that mythical Holy Grail to the ground in peices and say that virtually anyone can get any sound they want. The more populated the signal is with effects, the easier it becomes.

The Boston distortion, the Eddie van Halen distortion, The AC/DC crackiling overdrive, the mudded Metallica sound, the SRV sound, and of course, the Pink Floyd sound. Will you sound just like Dave when you play? Probably not. But will your guitar sound like it? Hell yes. Anyone who buys into the mythos that 90% of the sound is in the fingers either can't do it or doesn't have the money to try. Give Dave Gilmour a Danelcto with lipstick pickups and he won't sound like Dave Gilmour...just his playing. The "sound" is not magic. It's real. You can get it with enough money. Sorry to burst those bubbles.

Anyone see that Floyd cover band that had a concert in heavy ratation on DirecTV? THAT guy mailed the sound, nailed the style, nailed everything. Oh and of course it wasn't gilmour playing.

I have heard quite a few cover bands in my life and it's creepy how close they can get. The sound? Nailed it. But never quite the creative element. John Mayer could probably play a SRV solo note for note and you'd swear it was SRV.

But I digress. If you want to keep on believing in some crazy mystic mojo that will always be out of your grasp, then go for it. I used to beleive in Santa Clause and that was fun too. But Dave Gilmour is only human. Granted, amazingly talented, gifted, and fortunate. And though you'd be hard pressed to emulate his creativity or success...you can surely emulate something as definitive as his sound.

Flame on!

"Sound" yes I agree.
Tone, nuance, not at all to me.

Tone is in the fingers.

[Brownshortz]

Originally Posted by Ed Bickert

Kingalingus, this is in no way directed AT you. I just read all this stuff over and over from dozens of people and it drives me bonkers. I snapped! Lock me up...but here I go...

I think the whole, "the sound is in the fingers" is simply rubbish. Yes, there are certain nuances that can only be attained if the actual phyiscal playing are done in at least a similar fashion (try to emulate Wes Montgomery while using a pick). But I'll go out on a limb here, and smash that mythical Holy Grail to the ground in peices and say that virtually anyone can get any sound they want. The more populated the signal is with effects, the easier it becomes.

The Boston distortion, the Eddie van Halen distortion, The AC/DC crackiling overdrive, the mudded Metallica sound, the SRV sound, and of course, the Pink Floyd sound. Will you sound just like Dave when you play? Probably not. But will your guitar sound like it? Hell yes. Anyone who buys into the mythos that 90% of the sound is in the fingers either can't do it or doesn't have the money to try. Give Dave Gilmour a Danelcto with lipstick pickups and he won't sound like Dave Gilmour...just his playing. The "sound" is not magic. It's real. You can get it with enough money. Sorry to burst those bubbles.

Anyone see that Floyd cover band that had a concert in heavy ratation on DirecTV? THAT guy mailed the sound, nailed the style, nailed everything. Oh and of course it wasn't gilmour playing.

I have heard quite a few cover bands in my life and it's creepy how close they can get. The sound? Nailed it. But never quite the creative element. John Mayer could probably play a SRV solo note for note and you'd swear it was SRV.

But I digress. If you want to keep on believing in some crazy mystic mojo that will always be out of your grasp, then go for it. I used to beleive in Santa Clause and that was fun too. But Dave Gilmour is only human. Granted, amazingly talented, gifted, and fortunate. And though you'd be hard pressed to emulate his creativity or success...you can surely emulate something as definitive as his sound.

Flame on!

Hi Ed. Ok I can see what your saying about setup of the guitar and how its totally possible for a half decent guitarist to copy the licks of Gilmour, SRV or Carlos Santana and end up sounding almost identical to the real thing. The key phrase though in that instance would be "copy".
If you presented the above 3 guitarists with a piece of music they had never heard before and asked them to improvise around it for 3 minutes, you'd end up with 3 very distinctly different guitar solo's, and I'm pretty sure anyone with a decent ear could tell straight away which was which. Even if the setup on the guitar was exactly the same for each.
I'm 100% certain that if I'd never heard that particular song before and listened to that solo, I would have picked it as being Gilmour.
Anyway, cheers Ed.....I'm off to practice those Gilmour licks lol.

[graham232]

When he's playing David Gilmour or Pink Floyd Gilmour usually favours the Strat with his usual aresenal of effects. When he guests with over people as a backing musician (McCartney's Run Devil Run, frequently on Later With Jools Holland for example) he usually goes for the Tele.

One exception is the 2002 "In Concert" video where he plays mostly acoustic and a few semi-acoustics. He even plays a distorted solo on an acoustic and it still sounds like him!