Taipan / Pinemart - Taipan Model

Taipan · January 14th, 2008, 04:54 PM

I was listening to Leslie West - Mississippi Queen" on the radio thinking about one of the first concerts that I saw back in the day was Mountain. It got me thinking of how Leslie just man handled that LP Jr. Next thing I though about was combining the best qualities of the LP Jr. and a Tele and I called Marty on the phone telling him "Hey I got this Idea. I'm sure it has been done before but I would like to combine a LP Jr. and a Tele. He said " I haven't done one before" But I think it would be cool". Here is the result -

Taipan · January 14th, 2008, 05:07 PM

Here are some more pictures - Gonna be sporting one of my half bridges, control plate and neck plate. LP Jr pickguard ( Which I cut out of paper since I did not have one handy) Nice ebony Fat Back neck and maybe some other cool things. Have not settled on the color. Maybe TV Yellow or Tobacco Burst. Could always go with Black or the pickup as yet.
As I get things done I post more pictures.

e-merlin · January 14th, 2008, 05:47 PM

Very interesting!

Arlo · January 14th, 2008, 05:52 PM

Vince, so I thought for a second there was a rear rout for the control cavity???

Looks like you are going to do a top rout I am glad that is much cooler.

Looks great dude.

odiemann · January 14th, 2008, 05:56 PM

I am loving this. I bought a flawed pine body that I am trying to remedy, just don't have the time.

That is what I would call perfect.

Tedecaster · January 14th, 2008, 07:13 PM

Looking forward to seeing that! LPJrs are my other favorite guitars.

I've got a set of prints for a double-cut '59 waiting here for me.

What are you using for a neck?

TelecasterBlooz · January 14th, 2008, 07:34 PM

That just looks Bad-Ass! Good luck with this project!

guitarbuilder · January 14th, 2008, 07:59 PM

Fantastic looking project.... I wonder what it would look like with a snakehead peghead?
Marty

guitarbuilder · January 14th, 2008, 08:02 PM

It took great strength to part with that body......it is a featherweight to boot.
Marty

Taipan · January 14th, 2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarbuilder

It took great strength to part with that body......it is a featherweight to boot.
Marty

Probably the best compliment that you can get is when the guy who builds it doesn't want to part with it. I sure glad it didn't get to a wrestling match with you Marty....

Featherweight.... I forgot to mention it weights in at a mere 3.74 lbs !!! and that is without the control plate rout and edge routing which should bring it in under 3 1/2 lbs

Taipan · January 14th, 2008, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedecaster

Looking forward to seeing that! LPJrs are my other favorite guitars.

I've got a set of prints for a double-cut '59 waiting here for me.

What are you using for a neck?

Tedecaster - Currently I am planning on using a Musikrafter's Tele Baseball bat 1" thick 2 piece Rosewood or Ebony slab. ( still bouncing back and forth between 24-3/4" or 25-1/2" scale ) I wanted to pull the Head stock, neck, bridge, pick up and control plate elements from the Tele and the body profile and pick guard from the LP Jr. In so doing I am thinking it will cause whomever is looking at it to be in total confusion as they will be seeing Tele and LP Jr and then after it registers go " now that cool "....

jaydawg · January 14th, 2008, 09:42 PM

That is without a doubt the coolest idea I've seen in a long time!!!!!!!!

guitarbuilder- I think the snakehead idea is great. Maybe on a '59 double cut style chunk of pine?

martino · January 14th, 2008, 09:45 PM

I have 3 epi bodys that i am struggling with !

colld have saved Loads of
time, by getting a LP body from PINEMART.
Time that takes me away from my pinecaster.

WNC Bill · January 14th, 2008, 10:04 PM

I love this concept! great idea

d-rock · January 15th, 2008, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarbuilder

Fantastic looking project.... I wonder what it would look like with a snakehead peghead?
Marty

My thoughts exactly. It would be a Prototype Prototype Junior.

Arlo · January 15th, 2008, 07:34 AM

Why not make a all in one Pickguard to control plate out of your brushed stainless?

Now that would look absolutely killer on a black guitar or a darker burst.

Colin Johnston · January 15th, 2008, 07:40 AM

WOW! Can't wait to see how this one turns out!

boris bubbanov · January 15th, 2008, 01:45 PM

It takes such guts to embark on a totally different design scheme like that.

And so I do feel like a trespasser, driving my truck around in somebody else's pasture when I propose this, but I'm having difficulty with the long control plate element fitting into the rest of the Gibson form.

Is it too late, or have you thought about an upside down Squier 51 or 51 P-bass type control plate? As she's a one-pupper, would fewer controls seem right?

Again, my apologies for the ham fisted suggestion. Very exciting design.

Bubbanov

0le FUZZY · January 15th, 2008, 02:14 PM

.....and I thought iss here won waz urgleeeeeeeee!

...Shame onna mess!!

0le FUZZY

SixString821 · January 15th, 2008, 02:19 PM

i vote you use a full bridge there... i just think i would look cooler i guess.

jmho

odiemann · January 15th, 2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

...and I thought iss here won waz urgleeeeeeeee!

...Shame onna mess!!

I knew that was coming. Fuzzy, I am probably the biggest violator of the Tele shape rule. My best tele don't even look like a tele. I got a whole closet full of FrankenTeles.

But I love that tele sound too much. My wife is always telling me they sound too shrill or "unsmooth." Now I disagree with her politely there. And I am gonna have to disagree with you here. I think odd shaped teles are a tribute to how versatile the Tele platform is.

Please understand that, we are just odd ball brethren. If you knew more about me, you'd understand why the looks can be different and the sound mean more.

I love Tele's and the bastard children of them, too! And for your leadership and Teleosity, I love you, too.

Taipan · January 15th, 2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0le FUZZY

.....and I thought iss here won waz urgleeeeeeeeee...Shame onna mess!!

It is confirmed that I am on the right track.... Thanks Ole FUZZY, I am taken that as one huge compliment!

Quote:

Originally Posted by odiemann

I love Tele's and the bastard children of them, too!

odiemann- I'm taking "bastard children" that as compliment as well !

Quote:

Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

It takes such guts to embark on a totally different design scheme like that.

And so I do feel like a trespasser, driving my truck around in somebody else's pasture when I propose this, but I'm having difficulty with the long control plate element fitting into the rest of the Gibson form.
Bubbanov

Bubbanov -Please don't ever feel like a trespasser driving around my pastures. Your input as well as all others are always welcome. It's all good. That 304 SS .100 thick control plate was one that I had laying around for another build so I placed it on there for a little taste. Your right, since it will be sporting only one pup I will only need minimum one knob maybe two if I decide to throw a tone pot in. I will custom make one shorting it up as needed. I am also planning on pulling the bottom edge of the pickguard down some until I get the volume knob in the right position and then radius out the pickguard for the upper part of the control plate as is on a tele pick guard thus hopefully combining the ascetics of the two.

Taipan · January 15th, 2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarbuilder

Fantastic looking project.... I wonder what it would look like with a snakehead peghead?
Marty

Marty did you mean the original snakehead peghead like so...

Or like so...

kovachian · January 15th, 2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taipan

I'm sure it has been done before but I would like to combine a LP Jr. and a Tele.

Your suspicion is confirmed, Fano Guitars beat ya to it. It's an awesome idea though, I'm suprised this didn't become a reality years ago.

pottedmeat42 · January 15th, 2008, 09:00 PM

January 14th, 2008, 05:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,258	Vince, so I thought for a second there was a rear rout for the control cavity??? Looks like you are going to do a top rout I am glad that is much cooler. Looks great dude. __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 14th, 2008, 05:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
odiemann Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Age: 41 Posts: 1,406	I am loving this. I bought a flawed pine body that I am trying to remedy, just don't have the time. That is what I would call perfect. __________________ It just got better, I think

January 14th, 2008, 07:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
TelecasterBlooz Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Lisbon, WI Age: 49 Posts: 645	That just looks Bad-Ass! Good luck with this project! __________________ Leo Fender got it right the first time...(Telecaster)

January 14th, 2008, 09:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
jaydawg Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: York, ME Age: 32 Posts: 504	That is without a doubt the coolest idea I've seen in a long time!!!!!!!! guitarbuilder- I think the snakehead idea is great. Maybe on a '59 double cut style chunk of pine? __________________ WWLD (What would Leo Do?)

January 15th, 2008, 07:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,258	Why not make a all in one Pickguard to control plate out of your brushed stainless? Now that would look absolutely killer on a black guitar or a darker burst. __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 14th, 2008, 07:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tedecaster Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greensboro, Vermont Posts: 1,018 26 Photos	Looking forward to seeing that! LPJrs are my other favorite guitars. I've got a set of prints for a double-cut '59 waiting here for me. What are you using for a neck?

January 14th, 2008, 07:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
guitarbuilder Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hemlock, NY Age: 54 Posts: 315	Fantastic looking project.... I wonder what it would look like with a snakehead peghead? Marty

January 14th, 2008, 08:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
guitarbuilder Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hemlock, NY Age: 54 Posts: 315	It took great strength to part with that body......it is a featherweight to boot. Marty

January 14th, 2008, 09:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
martino Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LA CA US Posts: 367	I have 3 epi bodys that i am struggling with ! colld have saved Loads of time, by getting a LP body from PINEMART. Time that takes me away from my pinecaster.

January 14th, 2008, 10:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
WNC Bill Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: western NC Posts: 133	I love this concept! great idea

January 15th, 2008, 07:40 AM	#17 (permalink)
Colin Johnston Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: County Antrim, Northern Ireland Age: 37 Posts: 613	WOW! Can't wait to see how this one turns out! __________________ "on the trail of the lonesome pine... caster"

January 15th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
boris bubbanov Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past Posts: 7,573	It takes such guts to embark on a totally different design scheme like that. And so I do feel like a trespasser, driving my truck around in somebody else's pasture when I propose this, but I'm having difficulty with the long control plate element fitting into the rest of the Gibson form. Is it too late, or have you thought about an upside down Squier 51 or 51 P-bass type control plate? As she's a one-pupper, would fewer controls seem right? Again, my apologies for the ham fisted suggestion. Very exciting design. Bubbanov

January 15th, 2008, 02:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
0le FUZZY Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kolly-forn-knee-ya Posts: 10,001 6 Photos	.....and I thought iss here won waz urgleeeeeeeee! ...Shame onna mess!! 0le FUZZY

January 15th, 2008, 02:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
SixString821 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Delaware Age: 22 Posts: 255	i vote you use a full bridge there... i just think i would look cooler i guess. jmho

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