Could it be the son of Ol Piney??

Arlo · January 2nd, 2008, 07:56 PM

Sure looks like the same grain and wood!

Exemplar: Unknown

In fact I held up Piney and it is identical in many ways except the trem rout.

Exemplar: Known

The Unknown body came from Marty as did Ol Piney Known.

Marty told me about it back when I bought Piney and the sister that became Pine burst. Said the guy might be interested in selling. At the time I was looking for a trem routed Tele. There was never a discussion of it being a relative of Piney cause hell Piney really wasn't even a guitar then.

What do you guys think? Marty seems to agree it could be based on the pic. Hard to believe but if it's true WOW!

Tedecaster · January 2nd, 2008, 08:08 PM

Yeah Arlo, that really looks close! Alot of the same grain patterns in similar places, you never know.

Are you going for the hybrid Tele-trem set-up like the one Fuzzy did for Joel Terry?

Buckocaster51 · January 2nd, 2008, 08:11 PM

You're the forensics guy...but there are some things that I see that have me convinced.

Beautiful wood!

jwells393 · January 2nd, 2008, 08:13 PM

Wow ................ The similarity of the grain pattern is uncanny. If these are one piece bodies with vertical end grain I'd say the two pieces were once one and adjacent to one another.

Trimmed&Burnin · January 2nd, 2008, 08:27 PM

That is really a close match,,, it does'nt happen very often does it? Lookin good Arlo!

martino · January 2nd, 2008, 08:30 PM

That looks beautiful without losing the essence of clean pine
can we see the back Please!

Arlo · January 2nd, 2008, 08:47 PM

Martino,

I don't have any other pictures yet. This is all in the "Check is in the mail" stage so it may be a week or so before I have the actual body here.

I was talking to the guy that owns it over a year ago. And there were no pics then. Just email back n forth trying to come to a price since it is roughed out and no real sanding yet.

I had completely forgoten about it till the other day. I had this feeling like "What if" that body is from the same batch as Piney?? I had a bit of a moment there thinking I could have let it slip through my fingers since I had not followed up in months. I had forgot the guys email so I asked Marty again and he gave it to me.

Turns out this person is an old pal of Marty's from his luthier school.
I asked Marty about the possibility and he wasn't sure if it was the same? He couldn't recall until I sent the picture that his buddy sent me.

So I emailed him and he still had it. That was a good sign. We talked and I said I wanted it no matter what for the trem rout. But could you please send a pic? Well I was convinced when I saw the picture that it sure looked like it was indeed.

So as soon as I get it I will post some side by sides. I am going to be taking Piney apart to wax it up for the NAMM show.

Pretty cool and yes Tedecaster I am going to go for the Joel Terry type Tele Fuzzy made. Vintage Strat trem.

Got a few cool projects in the works but man the snow! Won't be any painting here for a while.

soltwanger · January 2nd, 2008, 08:52 PM

lovely bit of wood arlo! can't wait to see how this one turns out :-)

guitarbuilder · January 3rd, 2008, 04:16 AM

I can tell you this Arlo. I have only had one pine plank with grain like that. All the others have exhibited flatsawn grain patterns. I'd play the lottery if I were you.
Marty

guitarbuilder · January 3rd, 2008, 04:18 AM

Look at the light grain near the tops of the pickup routs and the top of the body. They are pretty much in the same spot on both bodies.
Marty

Arlo · January 3rd, 2008, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarbuilder

I can tell you this Arlo. I have only had one pine plank with grain like that. All the others have exhibited flatsawn grain patterns. I'd play the lottery if I were you.
Marty

Hey Marty, you guys still digging out from the lovely surprise Ma Nature left us? We got slammed here with about 10 inch's. Up the road in Mexico (ironic I know but it's a town here) they received 15 inch's of nice white chiropractic gold.

Here is my back yard where many a Tele body has been hung on the clothesline for paint and bug collisions. Doubtful it will see any action until spring.

Lottery hmmmmmmmm............... I guess if I could drag my butt out into this 10 below weather. A trip to the local mom and pop might be in order?

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarbuilder

Look at the light grain near the tops of the pickup routs and the top of the body. They are pretty much in the same spot on both bodies.
Marty

I hear ya there. I was completely flabbergasted when I saw the pic. I knew it had to be from the patterns. It would appear these are indeed VERY close relatives. Twins one might say.

Here are a few more interesting projects I am in the process of making. All of these body's were made by guitarbuilder or Pine-Mart as Marty is known in these parts. Some very nicely grained and skillfully crafted Pine.

First up is the Pine Esquire. Not sure what color or what finish (if any) this one will get but I just bought a Baritone maple vintage finished neck off Ebay which should be arriving any day. I am thinking that neck may just have to go on this body with a simple Howard's finish??

continued.................

Arlo · January 3rd, 2008, 07:05 AM

And now for a very special design and rare I might add.

A Pine Texacaster!! [Thanks InSlide for the imspiration on this one]

Here is a pic of InSlide's Texacaster:

Going to send this one out to be finished pro and have a pickguard cut properly etc. I am thinking Mr. Ron Kirn? What do you say brother Kirn?

This one will be constructed in a very interesting fashion.

Glendale Bridge and saddles of course.

Keystone's in all three positions possibly. At least certainly in the bridge but I also have two creme Strat keystones here looking for a new home. Bill has the new keystones for Tele coming out in a creme vintage color so this could be interesting. Now to figure out the paint scheme for those style pickups. Hmmmmmmmmm and of course the grain is stunning on this so it will have to either be a burst or trans I think.

And last a hard tail Strat in Pine.

I am thinking vintage Butterscotch on this one.

So if spring ever gets here I will be once again a man with a mission.

By the way the magazine "Interview" you see on the table has a Ralph Lauren interview which my forensic expertise rendered intelligible due to some very bad recording device. Saving the day and the interview it was published on time and as scheduled.

See my job isn't always about murder and mayhem!

Ronkirn · January 3rd, 2008, 09:02 AM

you betcha... but not today... I'm rating a solid 10 on the I can't believe I got the flu again-o-meter.... yuuuuuuuhhhhhh.

rk

Arlo · January 3rd, 2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronkirn

you betcha... but not today... I'm rating a solid 10 on the I can't believe I got the flu again-o-meter.... yuuuuuuuhhhhhh.

rk

Now that sucks Ron! Hope you feel better soon bro.

I will email ya on this and there is no hurry at all.

Pete Galati · January 3rd, 2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arlo

Sure looks like the same grain and wood!

Exemplar: Unknown

What do you guys think? Marty seems to agree it could be based on the pic. Hard to believe but if it's true WOW!

I'd install a quality 6-screw Strat bridge assembly with a milled steel trem block, like a Callaham. Then I'd mount a handwound Tele pickup into the body like on the GE Smith signature Tele.

Should come out sounding great.

If you can get your hands on the body, go for it.

guitarbuilder · January 3rd, 2008, 02:59 PM

Arlo, We got about 4 inches of the snow here and it is about 8 degrees today. They were predicting disaster but we missed it.
Marty

Colin Johnston · January 3rd, 2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarbuilder

Arlo, We got about 4 inches of the snow here and it is about 8 degrees today. They were predicting disaster but we missed it.
Marty

We've got 4 inches here too in Northern Ireland

Arlo · January 3rd, 2008, 07:26 PM

Pete, vintage 6 screw Callaham was my thought exactly.

I am not sure what I will use for pups just yet. Bill has been talking about a certain one that he is working on that has me very intrigued.

Well I have plenty of snow here for us all guys! And it is VERY chilly out there.

Buckocaster51 · January 3rd, 2008, 08:21 PM

Are you kids sure those bodies aren't some sort of photo-flame type jobs?

Arlo · January 10th, 2008, 11:24 AM

Looks like the DNA has matched these two together!

Arlo · January 10th, 2008, 11:26 AM

Taipan (Vince) made me this beautiful control plate out of brushed stainless. He also made a matching neck plate to go with it. Great job and thank you Taipan!

0le FUZZY · January 10th, 2008, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arlo

Looks like the DNA has matched these two together!

...Now that iss un-freakin reel !!!

...HOW?? Trick fat-o-grap-pea??

...I'm knott sure I could live with tew sew close in grain.

...Mebby the Strat tremolo will offset it enuff tew keep yew from gittin bored HEE! HEE!

0le FUZZY

jwells393 · January 10th, 2008, 12:27 PM

Not the son of Ol Piney but a sibling........ actually a twin .... but not identical.

January 2nd, 2008, 07:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,261	Could it be the son of Ol Piney?? Sure looks like the same grain and wood! Exemplar: Unknown In fact I held up Piney and it is identical in many ways except the trem rout. Exemplar: Known The Unknown body came from Marty as did Ol Piney Known. Marty told me about it back when I bought Piney and the sister that became Pine burst. Said the guy might be interested in selling. At the time I was looking for a trem routed Tele. There was never a discussion of it being a relative of Piney cause hell Piney really wasn't even a guitar then. What do you guys think? Marty seems to agree it could be based on the pic. Hard to believe but if it's true WOW! __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 2nd, 2008, 08:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 5,183 1 Photos	You're the forensics guy...but there are some things that I see that have me convinced. Beautiful wood! __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

January 2nd, 2008, 08:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 11,913 101 Photos	Wow ................ The similarity of the grain pattern is uncanny. If these are one piece bodies with vertical end grain I'd say the two pieces were once one and adjacent to one another. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras.

January 2nd, 2008, 08:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Trimmed&Burnin Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bellingham Wa Age: 54 Posts: 808	That is really a close match,,, it does'nt happen very often does it? Lookin good Arlo! __________________ Keep your lamp Trimmed And Burnin Shannon,

January 2nd, 2008, 08:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,261	Martino, I don't have any other pictures yet. This is all in the "Check is in the mail" stage so it may be a week or so before I have the actual body here. I was talking to the guy that owns it over a year ago. And there were no pics then. Just email back n forth trying to come to a price since it is roughed out and no real sanding yet. I had completely forgoten about it till the other day. I had this feeling like "What if" that body is from the same batch as Piney?? I had a bit of a moment there thinking I could have let it slip through my fingers since I had not followed up in months. I had forgot the guys email so I asked Marty again and he gave it to me. Turns out this person is an old pal of Marty's from his luthier school. I asked Marty about the possibility and he wasn't sure if it was the same? He couldn't recall until I sent the picture that his buddy sent me. So I emailed him and he still had it. That was a good sign. We talked and I said I wanted it no matter what for the trem rout. But could you please send a pic? Well I was convinced when I saw the picture that it sure looked like it was indeed. So as soon as I get it I will post some side by sides. I am going to be taking Piney apart to wax it up for the NAMM show. Pretty cool and yes Tedecaster I am going to go for the Joel Terry type Tele Fuzzy made. Vintage Strat trem. Got a few cool projects in the works but man the snow! Won't be any painting here for a while. __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 2nd, 2008, 08:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tedecaster Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greensboro, Vermont Posts: 1,018 26 Photos	Yeah Arlo, that really looks close! Alot of the same grain patterns in similar places, you never know. Are you going for the hybrid Tele-trem set-up like the one Fuzzy did for Joel Terry?

January 2nd, 2008, 08:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
martino Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LA CA US Posts: 368	That looks beautiful without losing the essence of clean pine can we see the back Please!

January 2nd, 2008, 08:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
soltwanger Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: norfolk, england Posts: 620	lovely bit of wood arlo! can't wait to see how this one turns out :-) __________________ www.myspace.com/wreckoftheminotaur www.myspace.com/cherryblossommelodies www.myspace.com/solphilcox

January 3rd, 2008, 04:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
guitarbuilder Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hemlock, NY Age: 54 Posts: 315	I can tell you this Arlo. I have only had one pine plank with grain like that. All the others have exhibited flatsawn grain patterns. I'd play the lottery if I were you. Marty

January 3rd, 2008, 04:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
guitarbuilder Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hemlock, NY Age: 54 Posts: 315	Look at the light grain near the tops of the pickup routs and the top of the body. They are pretty much in the same spot on both bodies. Marty

January 3rd, 2008, 07:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,261	And now for a very special design and rare I might add. A Pine Texacaster!! [Thanks InSlide for the imspiration on this one] Here is a pic of InSlide's Texacaster: Going to send this one out to be finished pro and have a pickguard cut properly etc. I am thinking Mr. Ron Kirn? What do you say brother Kirn? This one will be constructed in a very interesting fashion. Glendale Bridge and saddles of course. Keystone's in all three positions possibly. At least certainly in the bridge but I also have two creme Strat keystones here looking for a new home. Bill has the new keystones for Tele coming out in a creme vintage color so this could be interesting. Now to figure out the paint scheme for those style pickups. Hmmmmmmmmm and of course the grain is stunning on this so it will have to either be a burst or trans I think. And last a hard tail Strat in Pine. I am thinking vintage Butterscotch on this one. So if spring ever gets here I will be once again a man with a mission. By the way the magazine "Interview" you see on the table has a Ralph Lauren interview which my forensic expertise rendered intelligible due to some very bad recording device. Saving the day and the interview it was published on time and as scheduled. See my job isn't always about murder and mayhem! __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 3rd, 2008, 09:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ronkirn Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 62 Posts: 2,554	you betcha... but not today... I'm rating a solid 10 on the I can't believe I got the flu again-o-meter.... yuuuuuuuhhhhhh. rk __________________ Lord, give me a sense of humor. Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life, and pass it on to other folks. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing......

January 3rd, 2008, 02:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
guitarbuilder Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hemlock, NY Age: 54 Posts: 315	Arlo, We got about 4 inches of the snow here and it is about 8 degrees today. They were predicting disaster but we missed it. Marty

January 3rd, 2008, 07:26 PM	#18 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,261	Pete, vintage 6 screw Callaham was my thought exactly. I am not sure what I will use for pups just yet. Bill has been talking about a certain one that he is working on that has me very intrigued. Well I have plenty of snow here for us all guys! And it is VERY chilly out there. __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 3rd, 2008, 08:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 5,183 1 Photos	Are you kids sure those bodies aren't some sort of photo-flame type jobs? __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

January 10th, 2008, 11:24 AM	#20 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,261	Looks like the DNA has matched these two together! __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 10th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,261	Taipan (Vince) made me this beautiful control plate out of brushed stainless. He also made a matching neck plate to go with it. Great job and thank you Taipan! __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

January 10th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 11,913 101 Photos	Not the son of Ol Piney but a sibling........ actually a twin .... but not identical. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras.

January 10th, 2008, 12:35 PM	#24 (permalink)
Tedecaster Tele-Afflicted