The Emeraldcaster Project (aka Son of Meloncaster) - Page 33

toadman · March 6th, 2008, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Well now there then now little buckaroo...thanks for the props...although this "work ethic" thingamabob you mentioned is not something with which I can relate...but I digress...

Your tale takes me back to Mrs. Walred's kindergarten class so many years ago...back in the days before every little kid was issued magic markers in a rainbow of colors, we had little boxes of egg-based tempora paint...eight little bottles and a brush all lined up nicely in a long blue box...

Of course they were ALL my favorite colors...so I reckoned that if I took a little bit of each one and mixed them together...I would get something that was my VERY favorite color.

All I got was something that looked like poo. And when you think about it, poo is really nothing but a mixture of all of the great colors on the foods you put on your plate every day...

So...while I like the concept of your idea...I think it has the potential to go wrong...really wrong...really fast...

if you know what I mean!

i think it would be really sparkly poo!

reddogbass · March 7th, 2008, 11:20 AM

Hey Buck- Here's a link to the hook and loop polishing pads.

http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...lishing+pad.do

Their polishing products look promising as well, but I haven't tried them. My son uses them and swears by them, and they are reasonably priced.

Look at that 3" DA polisher. Looks great- might have to get one.

Nick JD · March 7th, 2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reddogbass

Look at that 3" DA polisher. Looks great- might have to get one.

What's "DA", Reddog?

mlp-mx6 · March 7th, 2008, 06:48 PM

Dual Action sander

sean79 · March 7th, 2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick JD

What's "DA", Reddog?

District Attorney. That 3" polisher will shine him up real nice.

Buckocaster51 · March 7th, 2008, 08:14 PM

Based upon some REALLY GOOD advice that I have been getting, the mail man brought a package from Mr. Rockler today.

It was filled with 5" hook & loop Micro Mesh pads for my DA.

Looks to me like the old Doublerubycaster has "the shine" now!

Thank you kindly kids.

Now I just have to get the necks cleaned up so I can start bolting this bad boy together.

Then I get to make a pickguard for it!

That should be more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

Spunky99 · March 7th, 2008, 10:50 PM

Buck,
I have a Rockler right down the street here...
Pray tell what I need to purchase and spare the price..
My wife is gonna kill me.....
I take it I can use my orbital sander as the polisher...save $$ on a polisher....
Do I need Dupont #7?

burntBoot · March 8th, 2008, 06:38 AM

Hi there! This sparkle job is Awesome!! Can they be bought??? Very interested. BurntBoot

Buckocaster51 · March 8th, 2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunky99

Buck,
I have a Rockler right down the street here...
Pray tell what I need to purchase and spare the price..
My wife is gonna kill me.....
I take it I can use my orbital sander as the polisher...save $$ on a polisher....
Do I need Dupont #7?

Ahhh...another rookie asking a rookie a question!

You have to remember, I am making this stuff up as I go along. There are so many people on here helping me out with tips and advice...I hardly feel competent to say anything...if you know what I mean.

But here's what I plan to try the next time I polish a guitar.

Use 600 grit paper on my 'electic DA sander. (I don't know if a DA sander and an orbital sander are the same thing.)

Then I will start the Micro Mesh system...going right up through the grits. Using just a little bit of water. (It is an electric sander after all!)

Rockler has a little pack of nine (9) Micro Mesh 5" hook and loop disks. Right here I am sure they are available from lots of places...and perhaps cheaper...but if you have a Rockler right down the street.

Seems like good stuff.

Have a good day.

Buckocaster51 · March 10th, 2008, 10:44 PM

I had to go to a school board meeting tonight...trying to prepare them for next month when we intend to ask them for a ton and a half of money to dump into my IT operation, so didn't get much work done...

Did get to check the fit on a tuner though.

It is still red.

I'm really starting to see the light at the end of this tunnel. I might get to spend Saturday making a pickguard for it.

Buckocaster51 · March 11th, 2008, 08:49 PM

Let's take a closer look at installing some tuners.

This neck was drilled for vintage-style Klusons. Some big-ol' Gotohs are going on it. The holes on the back need to be enlarged. We're going to be using a 3/8" Forstner bit, so we will want something to guide the point of the bit. Inserting a sacrificial plug in the hole will do the trick.

A touch of CA glue will keep them in place until they are drilled out.

The Gotohs are slightly tapered, and seem to be a bit bigger than 3/8" at the base. So we'll take a regular old 3/8" bit, chuck it up, put a piece of tape on it as a depth stop, put the drill in reverse, and make that hole just a bit bigger.

The screws that hold the tuners in place on the back side don't look any too robust...we want to be sure to drill pilot holes that are the proper size.

Once again we are using a piece of tape as a depth stop. We really don't want to drill through the headstock. That would be bad. Really bad.

Once the holes are drilled, I like to wax up the screws and put them in to cut the threads in the wood. Doing it now makes installing the tuners later much easier.

Buckocaster51 · March 11th, 2008, 08:54 PM

Then we can go to the flip side and put the topside screw-in bushings in place.

After they get lined up and we put the screws in the back, it looks like a finished headstock.

But wait! There's more!

We have a couple of headstocks to try to sparkle tonight...

First we will mask them off

and then shoot them with some silver basecoat.

Buckocaster51 · March 11th, 2008, 09:00 PM

We'll pull the tape, clean up some paint issues, and remask.

Then shoot some clear DEFT and sprinkle on some sparkles

One of them looks the way we want it to look...

and I am happy with it.

The other one though...something went wrong...maybe it is just too cold...so...what do we do with lacquer when things go wrong?

We wipe it down with acetone and say, "No sweat, we'll try it another day!"

Dep · March 12th, 2008, 09:44 AM

Buck, it must be that birdseye maple rejecting it because it thinks it's too pretty to be covered in sparkles.

Dep

robt57 · March 12th, 2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dep

Buck, it must be that birdseye maple rejecting it because it thinks it's too pretty to be covered in sparkles.

Dep

What he said.... ;)

1charger69 · March 12th, 2008, 02:10 PM

sparkle work is amazing!! what size sparke do you use???

Buckocaster51 · March 12th, 2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1charger69

sparkle work is amazing!! what size sparke do you use???

Thank you.

The container says 0.015" or 375 microns in the ever popular hex shape.

I think that is the largest size I can reasonable expect to get through a spray gun...should I decide to spray it.

Buckocaster51 · March 12th, 2008, 07:34 PM

We're gonna try one more time to cover up those birdseyes.

Masking tape and a silver basecoat.

Then we'll take it out to the Stripper Dust Application Chamber, spray on some DEFT, and then sprinkle on the Stripper Dust...

Ahhhh! This would me Gypsy Rose Lee proud!

let's take off the tape while things are still sticky and shake off the loose stuff.

This is SO MUCH better than yesterday. It was certainly worth the extra time and effort to do it again.

We'll let it dry tonight. Tomorrow it can be cleaned up, and then we can start the clearing process.

About covering up those birdseyes...how many birdseye guitars do you see? How many sparkle guitars do you see? Have I made my point? The rest of the neck has enough of those birdsmarks in it to more than make up for what has been covered.

robt57 · March 12th, 2008, 08:21 PM

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About covering up those birdseyes..

The back of the neck is still birdseye, right? ;)

riggergreg · March 12th, 2008, 08:42 PM

I'm not much into those fancy schmancy lookin guitars, but I could see myself playing one that color.

I'd have to dress up, though

Dep · March 13th, 2008, 09:28 AM

Buck, hope I didn't offend you by my earlier post. Was just having a bit of fun.

I think this color sparkle is going to be my favorite.

Dep

cpeters01 · March 13th, 2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Let's take a closer look at installing some tuners.

This neck was drilled for vintage-style Klusons. Some big-ol' Gotohs are going on it. The holes on the back need to be enlarged. We're going to be using a 3/8" Forstner bit, so we will want something to guide the point of the bit. Inserting a sacrificial plug in the hole will do the trick.

Thank you for this bit'o wisdom. I was at the drill press yesterday with my son's Samick neck which is getting a much needed make over, doing exactly the same thing...Kluson to Gotoh. I was 'fretting' about how not to mess up this neck. So I took a break and did

March 7th, 2008, 08:14 PM	#1286 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 4,960 1 Photos	Based upon some REALLY GOOD advice that I have been getting, the mail man brought a package from Mr. Rockler today. It was filled with 5" hook & loop Micro Mesh pads for my DA. Looks to me like the old Doublerubycaster has "the shine" now! Thank you kindly kids. Now I just have to get the necks cleaned up so I can start bolting this bad boy together. Then I get to make a pickguard for it! That should be more fun than a barrel of monkeys. __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

March 10th, 2008, 10:44 PM	#1290 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 4,960 1 Photos	I had to go to a school board meeting tonight...trying to prepare them for next month when we intend to ask them for a ton and a half of money to dump into my IT operation, so didn't get much work done... Did get to check the fit on a tuner though. It is still red. I'm really starting to see the light at the end of this tunnel. I might get to spend Saturday making a pickguard for it. __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

March 11th, 2008, 08:49 PM	#1291 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 4,960 1 Photos	Let's take a closer look at installing some tuners. This neck was drilled for vintage-style Klusons. Some big-ol' Gotohs are going on it. The holes on the back need to be enlarged. We're going to be using a 3/8" Forstner bit, so we will want something to guide the point of the bit. Inserting a sacrificial plug in the hole will do the trick. A touch of CA glue will keep them in place until they are drilled out. The Gotohs are slightly tapered, and seem to be a bit bigger than 3/8" at the base. So we'll take a regular old 3/8" bit, chuck it up, put a piece of tape on it as a depth stop, put the drill in reverse, and make that hole just a bit bigger. The screws that hold the tuners in place on the back side don't look any too robust...we want to be sure to drill pilot holes that are the proper size. Once again we are using a piece of tape as a depth stop. We really don't want to drill through the headstock. That would be bad. Really bad. Once the holes are drilled, I like to wax up the screws and put them in to cut the threads in the wood. Doing it now makes installing the tuners later much easier. __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

March 11th, 2008, 08:54 PM	#1292 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 4,960 1 Photos	Then we can go to the flip side and put the topside screw-in bushings in place. After they get lined up and we put the screws in the back, it looks like a finished headstock. But wait! There's more! We have a couple of headstocks to try to sparkle tonight... First we will mask them off and then shoot them with some silver basecoat. __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

March 11th, 2008, 09:00 PM	#1293 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 4,960 1 Photos	We'll pull the tape, clean up some paint issues, and remask. Then shoot some clear DEFT and sprinkle on some sparkles One of them looks the way we want it to look... and I am happy with it. The other one though...something went wrong...maybe it is just too cold...so...what do we do with lacquer when things go wrong? We wipe it down with acetone and say, "No sweat, we'll try it another day!" __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

March 7th, 2008, 11:20 AM	#1282 (permalink)
reddogbass Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 61 Posts: 572 5 Photos	Hey Buck- Here's a link to the hook and loop polishing pads. http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...lishing+pad.do Their polishing products look promising as well, but I haven't tried them. My son uses them and swears by them, and they are reasonably priced. Look at that 3" DA polisher. Looks great- might have to get one.

March 7th, 2008, 06:48 PM	#1284 (permalink)
mlp-mx6 TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 68	Dual Action sander

March 7th, 2008, 10:50 PM	#1287 (permalink)
Spunky99 Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Redondo beach Age: 54 Posts: 345	Buck, I have a Rockler right down the street here... Pray tell what I need to purchase and spare the price.. My wife is gonna kill me..... I take it I can use my orbital sander as the polisher...save $$ on a polisher.... Do I need Dupont #7?

March 8th, 2008, 06:38 AM	#1288 (permalink)
burntBoot NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 2	Hi there! This sparkle job is Awesome!! Can they be bought??? Very interested. BurntBoot

March 12th, 2008, 09:44 AM	#1294 (permalink)
Dep Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: St Johns, Florida Posts: 259	Buck, it must be that birdseye maple rejecting it because it thinks it's too pretty to be covered in sparkles. Dep

March 12th, 2008, 02:10 PM	#1296 (permalink)
1charger69 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Latrobe Pa Age: 35 Posts: 106	sparkle work is amazing!! what size sparke do you use???

March 12th, 2008, 07:34 PM	#1298 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 4,960 1 Photos	More encounters with Stripper Dust We're gonna try one more time to cover up those birdseyes. Masking tape and a silver basecoat. Then we'll take it out to the Stripper Dust Application Chamber, spray on some DEFT, and then sprinkle on the Stripper Dust... Ahhhh! This would me Gypsy Rose Lee proud! let's take off the tape while things are still sticky and shake off the loose stuff. This is SO MUCH better than yesterday. It was certainly worth the extra time and effort to do it again. We'll let it dry tonight. Tomorrow it can be cleaned up, and then we can start the clearing process. About covering up those birdseyes...how many birdseye guitars do you see? How many sparkle guitars do you see? Have I made my point? The rest of the neck has enough of those birdsmarks in it to more than make up for what has been covered. __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

March 12th, 2008, 08:42 PM	#1300 (permalink)
riggergreg Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lebanon, Ohio Age: 51 Posts: 1,000 32 Photos	I'm not much into those fancy schmancy lookin guitars, but I could see myself playing one that color. I'd have to dress up, though __________________ I got all I need.....For now

March 13th, 2008, 09:28 AM	#1301 (permalink)
Dep Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: St Johns, Florida Posts: 259	Buck, hope I didn't offend you by my earlier post. Was just having a bit of fun. I think this color sparkle is going to be my favorite. Dep