The 6 Year Tele… The rest of the story - Page 2

furrfurrfurr · June 29th, 2007, 11:52 AM

I'll say it again, it sounds as though Monterose has already implicated himself more than enough to have the pants sued off of him. Let's hope his bare arse is stuck out in the rain.

Congrats again, Danny and Mandy Marie.

I honestly can't believe the nerve of this clown.

mojocasterman · June 29th, 2007, 12:46 PM

I can't wait to hear about this Jay character being sentenced to some prison time for his criminal ways...

aznrambo481 · June 29th, 2007, 01:30 PM

Mr. Hahn is probably one of the coolest people ever, just for this. Congratulations on getting in touch with such an awesome, generous person!

dibber124 · June 29th, 2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by furrfurrfurr

I'll say it again, it sounds as though Monterose has already implicated himself more than enough to have the pants sued off of him. Let's hope his bare arse is stuck out in the rain.

Congrats again, Danny and Mandy Marie.

I honestly can't believe the nerve of this clown.

Well, at the very least there should be enough bad press by now that only a total idiot would do business with him.

gtrwrks · June 29th, 2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardWitt

I would track down this Jay guy and tell him what I've told anyone else who's owed me money,

"I want my money back and if not, I'll get my money's worth!"

Amen.

Jim Lutz · June 29th, 2007, 03:04 PM

Awesome story. Unbelievable ending. Epic. Congratulations on the new axe. Wish I was going to be around the end of the month to meet you here. Your patience in overwhelming.

Now....for my two cents worth.

It sounds like you are going to pursue Jay for some sort of closure/compensation. Excellent. That is EXACTLY the right thing.
People who do that sort of business keep going because a majority of people are "nice guys" and nice guys don't ever make trouble. They "chalk it up" and move on. Well, IMHO when someone clearly is in the wrong, they MUST be called on it. That is the way change happens. I doubt him being successfully challenged by you will cause him any enlightenment as a human, because as a good friend of mine says - 'don't expect a snake to be anything other than a snake'. But by successfully challenging him you are acting as a cog in the karma wheel and you will have an effect. Eventually, that business will either change for the better, or go away. Either way we all win.
Good luck, and like Joel would say, don't just play that guitar, PLAY THE HELL OUT OF IT!

Congrats again man.

TelZilla · June 29th, 2007, 03:07 PM

Good for you. Very happy that it turned out for the best. And whatever you decide toi do about Vintique is your biz.

And I'm sure Vince Gill is excited about his new axe.

With it's Warmoth body. Or was it Allparts?

Chris S. · June 29th, 2007, 03:12 PM

Man, what a BEAUTIFUL guitar! And what a wonderful thing to do. :-) (And congrats Danny, I know you're going to love playing it.

)

As for that "other guy" who

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... is acting like a criminal...

... after six years, it's hard to characterize his behavior as "acting like."

All IMO, of course. :-|

Meanwhile, enjoy your new axe Danny! So where's the hot pickin' already?

We want SOUND CLIPS!

CS

genny · June 29th, 2007, 03:42 PM

great ending..

i agree that you should take him to some kind of "not so" small claims court...

and don't be mad, but I'm still laughing that this surprise guitar has no knobs?

kinda fitting for this whole ordeal.

maestrovert · June 29th, 2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatocaster

..../....He had also asked me for my “original paper work” which I gladly sent him...../....

This worries me Danny, if you no longer have the original paperwork, depending upon your jurisdiction, you may not have a legal leg to stand on if you pursue (rightly i.m.h.o.) a case against him......

Johnny Isaacs · June 29th, 2007, 05:16 PM

...I hated to hear all that you went through but it looks like you've got a great guitar after all! Congrats! I'm a believer in what comes around goes around!

Johnny Isaacs

Bill · June 29th, 2007, 05:35 PM

Just one question:

How much and how long for the knobs?

Fatocaster · June 29th, 2007, 06:21 PM

Bill... The guy GAVE me a guitar

I'll have the knobs in 2 weeks and they won't cost a cent. But even if I were to never get knobs for that Tele, it certainly wouldn't matter to me.

Genny, he told me that he was out of knobs and I told him that didn't matter, but he said he'd send me some because in Chihoe's words " they're essential!" Ha Ha!!

Fatocaster · June 29th, 2007, 06:42 PM

By the way, I can't really "use" them the way I use actual Tele knobs - but we slapped a pair of chicken head knobs on there today...and it looks pretty cool!

LarryR · June 29th, 2007, 07:22 PM

congratulations, that is such a nice ending to this whole saga. Enjoy and treasure it.

Mark Davis · June 29th, 2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TelZilla

Good for you. Very happy that it turned out for the best. And whatever you decide toi do about Vintique is your biz.

And I'm sure Vince Gill is excited about his new axe.

With it's Warmoth body. Or was it Allparts?

Jay at Vintique uses a new body made by Allfarts. Its made of all the compressed hot air he blasts. LOL

doster · June 29th, 2007, 10:10 PM

It's a comic tragedy in three acts played out here. Made for great reading and it's so wonderful that Danny got an awesome guitar in the end.
Good things do happen to good people. I bet you'll see that case and some cash sometime down the road. Thumbs up to Mr. Hahn, and brilliant. Who wouldn't buy a guitar from a guy who shows that kind class.

skydawg · June 29th, 2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lutz

Now....for my two cents worth. People who do that sort of business keep going because a majority of people are "nice guys" and nice guys don't ever make trouble. They "chalk it up" and move on. Well, IMHO when someone clearly is in the wrong, they MUST be called on it. That is the way change happens.

+1million! This is the problem I have with the Ebay feedback system. I don't trust anyone who has over 100 feedbacks without a negative. It's human nature that out of 100+ transactions you're going to meet up with a jerk and earn yourself a negative or two. Unless instead of calling a spade a spade you "roll over" and give the deserving party a positive in fear of the proverbial retaliatory neg! The only problem is the offending party moves on, positive feedback in place, ready to throw it to the next unsuspecting victim. JMHO

johnspierce · June 29th, 2007, 11:26 PM

Congrats Danny, it took a while for the karma to catch up, but it did indeed. And kudos to Chihoe.

I wonder if Mr. Gill would still be interested in dealing with Jay if he knew how the guy screws the common man. Maybe a few emails to vincegill.com would be in order.

JP

Lostheart · June 30th, 2007, 12:51 AM

Wow...what a great guy...making up for someone elses f***-up! All my respect go to Mr. Hahn and (although nearly impossible) I even lost more respect for Vintique...

dibber124 · June 30th, 2007, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

Jay at Vintique uses a new body made by Allfarts. Its made of all the compressed hot air he blasts. LOL

The Vince Gill bit sounds like BS, a sick parting shot to make Danny feel bad. Like when you break off with a girl and she calls to let you know her new boyfriend is better in the sack than you were and owns three houses and a yacht.
Bet Mr. Gill dosen't throw his money away if it is going to a slimeball.

Ron Garson · June 30th, 2007, 05:24 AM

Just wonderful news Danny!

I'm so pleased to hear this outcome. I hope that we can hear some of that new Tele on a track somewhere soon!

stephent2 · June 30th, 2007, 06:02 AM

Vince Gill is a real nice guy, I kinda doubt he would deal w/ Jay at all.

Congrats to Danny! If ya live a good life, good things happen!

BlackieStratMan · June 30th, 2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skiraly017

About a week ago I asked him how things turned out and he informed me that he did receive a guitar but that it had to be "reworked" by a local luthier to bring it up to snuff.

You think after five years of waiting it would be right the first time. Ill nver buy a guitar online like that.

June 29th, 2007, 11:52 AM	#41 (permalink)
furrfurrfurr Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South of Heaven Posts: 1,788	I'll say it again, it sounds as though Monterose has already implicated himself more than enough to have the pants sued off of him. Let's hope his bare arse is stuck out in the rain. Congrats again, Danny and Mandy Marie. I honestly can't believe the nerve of this clown. __________________ Hope I'm not too Messianic or a trifle too Satanic. Meow.

June 29th, 2007, 12:46 PM	#42 (permalink)
mojocasterman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,124	I can't wait to hear about this Jay character being sentenced to some prison time for his criminal ways... __________________ Stratocaster? Telecaster? MojoCaster!

June 29th, 2007, 01:30 PM	#43 (permalink)
aznrambo481 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla, California Age: 17 Posts: 2,754 6 Photos	Mr. Hahn is probably one of the coolest people ever, just for this. Congratulations on getting in touch with such an awesome, generous person! __________________ "Never age. Never die. Live forever in that one last white-hot moment, when the crowd screamed. When every note was a heartbeat. Burn across the sky."-Terry Pratchett, Soul Music.

June 29th, 2007, 03:04 PM	#46 (permalink)
Jim Lutz Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX. Posts: 189	Awesome story. Unbelievable ending. Epic. Congratulations on the new axe. Wish I was going to be around the end of the month to meet you here. Your patience in overwhelming. Now....for my two cents worth. It sounds like you are going to pursue Jay for some sort of closure/compensation. Excellent. That is EXACTLY the right thing. People who do that sort of business keep going because a majority of people are "nice guys" and nice guys don't ever make trouble. They "chalk it up" and move on. Well, IMHO when someone clearly is in the wrong, they MUST be called on it. That is the way change happens. I doubt him being successfully challenged by you will cause him any enlightenment as a human, because as a good friend of mine says - 'don't expect a snake to be anything other than a snake'. But by successfully challenging him you are acting as a cog in the karma wheel and you will have an effect. Eventually, that business will either change for the better, or go away. Either way we all win. Good luck, and like Joel would say, don't just play that guitar, *PLAY THE HELL OUT OF IT!* Congrats again man. __________________ ------------------------------------------ Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Vince Lombardi ================================= http://www.myspace.com/jimlutzguitar

June 29th, 2007, 03:07 PM	#47 (permalink)
TelZilla Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleveburg, USA Age: 38 Posts: 1,580 6 Photos	Good for you. Very happy that it turned out for the best. And whatever you decide toi do about Vintique is your biz. And I'm sure Vince Gill is excited about his new axe. With it's Warmoth body. Or was it Allparts? __________________ Thanks,Nick Witless and Affected. Always.

June 29th, 2007, 03:42 PM	#49 (permalink)
genny Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LA.CA.. Age: 22 Posts: 150	great ending.. i agree that you should take him to some kind of "not so" small claims court... and don't be mad, but I'm still laughing that this surprise guitar has no knobs? kinda fitting for this whole ordeal.

June 29th, 2007, 05:16 PM	#51 (permalink)
Johnny Isaacs Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,375 3 Photos	Like everyone else here.... ...I hated to hear all that you went through but it looks like you've got a great guitar after all! Congrats! I'm a believer in what comes around goes around! Johnny Isaacs __________________ REAL music doesn't need an artistic director.... I've never trusted a guitar player who hasn't licked a few 9volts... Famous last words...... after this one, no new Tele's!

June 29th, 2007, 05:35 PM	#52 (permalink)
Bill Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,448 56 Photos	Just one question: How much and how long for the knobs? __________________ B i l l B a e c k A journal of our year in London

June 29th, 2007, 06:21 PM	#53 (permalink)
Fatocaster TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 17	Bill... The guy GAVE me a guitar I'll have the knobs in 2 weeks and they won't cost a cent. But even if I were to never get knobs for that Tele, it certainly wouldn't matter to me. Genny, he told me that he was out of knobs and I told him that didn't matter, but he said he'd send me some because in Chihoe's words " they're essential!" Ha Ha!!

June 29th, 2007, 06:42 PM	#54 (permalink)
Fatocaster TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 17	By the way, I can't really "use" them the way I use actual Tele knobs - but we slapped a pair of chicken head knobs on there today...and it looks pretty cool!

June 29th, 2007, 07:22 PM	#55 (permalink)
LarryR Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: los angeles Posts: 616	congratulations, that is such a nice ending to this whole saga. Enjoy and treasure it. __________________ http://cdbaby.com/cd/dratrd

June 29th, 2007, 10:10 PM	#57 (permalink)
doster Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 264	It's a comic tragedy in three acts played out here. Made for great reading and it's so wonderful that Danny got an awesome guitar in the end. Good things do happen to good people. I bet you'll see that case and some cash sometime down the road. Thumbs up to Mr. Hahn, and brilliant. Who wouldn't buy a guitar from a guy who shows that kind class. __________________ “You don't find a style, ... a style finds you.” Keith Richards

June 29th, 2007, 11:26 PM	#59 (permalink)
johnspierce Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 458 16 Photos	Congrats Danny, it took a while for the karma to catch up, but it did indeed. And kudos to Chihoe. I wonder if Mr. Gill would still be interested in dealing with Jay if he knew how the guy screws the common man. Maybe a few emails to vincegill.com would be in order. JP

June 30th, 2007, 12:51 AM	#60 (permalink)
Lostheart Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 1,237	Wow...what a great guy...making up for someone elses f**-up! All my respect go to Mr. Hahn and (although nearly impossible) I even lost more respect for Vintique... __________________ Casper: "Mmmmm. Butterscotch, yo. That's the best!" From the movie* Kids

June 30th, 2007, 05:24 AM	#62 (permalink)
Ron Garson Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 575 20 Photos	Just wonderful news Danny! I'm so pleased to hear this outcome. I hope that we can hear some of that new Tele on a track somewhere soon!

June 30th, 2007, 06:02 AM	#63 (permalink)
stephent2 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA. Age: 57 Posts: 2,169 20 Photos	Vince Gill is a real nice guy, I kinda doubt he would deal w/ Jay at all. Congrats to Danny! If ya live a good life, good things happen! __________________ 3. If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers. - - Thomas Pynchon

July 1st, 2007, 01:40 AM	#65 (permalink)
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