Pine bodies - why did they not continue them? - Page 2

David Barnett · June 30th, 2007, 12:24 PM

Was the "snake head" prototype made from pine?

gtech · June 30th, 2007, 04:16 PM

The Pine in the body blanks looks kind of like the bodies on Ebay.

http://www.guitarmill.com/products.html

Could it be some nice pine looking a bit like ash?

Gilles

appar111 · June 30th, 2007, 04:25 PM

Well, the seller on Ebay has sold plenty of pine bodies, and their feedback is great. I'd imagine if someone got a body other than the one pictured in their auction, they'd be leaving appropriate feedback about their transaction.

Lostheart · June 30th, 2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Barnett

Was the "snake head" prototype made from pine?

Far as I know, yes.
As well as the black truss-rod-less Esquires prior to the Broadcaster.

Does anyone know where to purchase any well-seasoned pine blanks other than Guitar Mill?

skydawg · July 11th, 2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Nip

When the pitch is crystalized, theoretically, it no longer weeps.

I'm glad George Harrison didn't have one.

David Barnett · July 11th, 2007, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skydawg

I'm glad George Harrison didn't have one.

Clapton played that solo.

skydawg · July 11th, 2007, 08:10 PM

But George wrote the tune.

Flashback · July 11th, 2007, 08:23 PM

My Pinecaster is a GENUINE South Carolina Southern Yellow Pine Body or GSCSYPB for short. (keep up with the acronyms folks)

And man does it have some dents from me playing clubs regularly with it. No buckle rash cause I dont wear huge belt buckles. But I have dropped it, knocked it over, bumped into stuff, and even had a schaller strap lock "strip out" and the whole deal come tumbling to the ground.

But it still sounds like it always has. If not a bit more darker than it original did a year ago when I built it.

But i think if your not as clumsy as I am, your pine body should be in good shape for a good long time.

Back to the subject at hand.

I always figured Leo just used what was always readily available and I considered adding a truss rod and improvement on the ole Tele.

robt57 · May 19th, 2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegasrock

I put a coat of wood hardener on my pine bodies during prep and it really does wonders.

Any particular product 'wood hardener' ??? Inquiring minds, and like that... ;)

can't-play · May 19th, 2008, 12:36 PM

kreyzgym · May 19th, 2008, 07:43 PM

^Hahahahahahahahah.

po-boy · May 19th, 2008, 11:26 PM

wouldn't using a hardener defeat the reason for using pine in the first place ? pine is light and resonate and is warmer sounding than ash - i think its softness is an important factor in the sound it produces - think about acoustic guitars with cedar tops - cedar topped acoustics are warmer and louder than similar guitars with spruce or other harder tops - cedar is difficult to work with and dents/marks easily - some custom builders prefer cedar tops for its sound advantages and feel its pros outweigh its cons - same for spalted maple tops - untreated spalted maple is very warm and resonate - stabilized spalted maple not so much - you get the look but sacrifice the sound quality - pine is what it is - it is lightweight, resonate and sounds great but it also dings easily and sometimes shows pitch/resin - just depends on what floats your boat and what combination of looks and tone turns you on -

- i'm not a complete idiot ... some parts are missing -

Nick JD · May 20th, 2008, 12:00 AM

Pine down this way comes in the form of Pinus radiata. It's not much harder than balsa. I'd say well below 0.25 density (...with 1 being water).

Some of your north american pines are the same density as ash, above 0.5.

David Barnett · May 20th, 2008, 01:45 AM

If I understand correctly, the pine Esquire/Broadcaster bodies were made from four pieces of 3/4" shelf stock, the same material as their amp cabinets.

June 30th, 2007, 04:16 PM	#42 (permalink)
gtech Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 59 Posts: 1,948 171 Photos	The Pine in the body blanks looks kind of like the bodies on Ebay. http://www.guitarmill.com/products.html Could it be some nice pine looking a bit like ash? Gilles __________________ Back to practice now...to make my Teles sound good.

July 11th, 2007, 08:23 PM	#48 (permalink)
Flashback Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florence, South Carolina Posts: 744 4 Photos	My Pinecaster is a GENUINE South Carolina Southern Yellow Pine Body or GSCSYPB for short. (keep up with the acronyms folks) And man does it have some dents from me playing clubs regularly with it. No buckle rash cause I dont wear huge belt buckles. But I have dropped it, knocked it over, bumped into stuff, and even had a schaller strap lock "strip out" and the whole deal come tumbling to the ground. But it still sounds like it always has. If not a bit more darker than it original did a year ago when I built it. But i think if your not as clumsy as I am, your pine body should be in good shape for a good long time. Back to the subject at hand. I always figured Leo just used what was always readily available and I considered adding a truss rod and improvement on the ole Tele. __________________ "You don't gotta be loud Son, to be heavy as S**t!" The Nightwatchman

May 19th, 2008, 12:36 PM	#50 (permalink)
can't-play TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: pearl river, NY Age: 49 Posts: 45	I think that goes by name Viagra.

May 20th, 2008, 12:00 AM	#53 (permalink)
Nick JD Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: North NSW, Australia Age: 36 Posts: 2,110	Pine down this way comes in the form of Pinus radiata. It's not much harder than balsa. I'd say well below 0.25 density (...with 1 being water). Some of your north american pines are the same density as ash, above 0.5. __________________

June 30th, 2007, 12:24 PM	#41 (permalink)
David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: LIttle Rock, AR Age: 52 Posts: 5,264	Was the "snake head" prototype made from pine?

June 30th, 2007, 04:25 PM	#43 (permalink)
appar111 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Age: 33 Posts: 1,259	Well, the seller on Ebay has sold plenty of pine bodies, and their feedback is great. I'd imagine if someone got a body other than the one pictured in their auction, they'd be leaving appropriate feedback about their transaction.

July 11th, 2007, 08:10 PM	#47 (permalink)
skydawg Removed Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2006 Location: GREATER CHICAGOLAND AREA, USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,158	But George wrote the tune.

May 19th, 2008, 07:43 PM	#51 (permalink)
kreyzgym TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne Age: 18 Posts: 59	^Hahahahahahahahah.

May 19th, 2008, 11:26 PM	#52 (permalink)
po-boy Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dees, alabama Posts: 179	wouldn't using a hardener defeat the reason for using pine in the first place ? pine is light and resonate and is warmer sounding than ash - i think its softness is an important factor in the sound it produces - think about acoustic guitars with cedar tops - cedar topped acoustics are warmer and louder than similar guitars with spruce or other harder tops - cedar is difficult to work with and dents/marks easily - some custom builders prefer cedar tops for its sound advantages and feel its pros outweigh its cons - same for spalted maple tops - untreated spalted maple is very warm and resonate - stabilized spalted maple not so much - you get the look but sacrifice the sound quality - pine is what it is - it is lightweight, resonate and sounds great but it also dings easily and sometimes shows pitch/resin - just depends on what floats your boat and what combination of looks and tone turns you on - - i'm not a complete idiot ... some parts are missing -

May 20th, 2008, 01:45 AM	#54 (permalink)
David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: LIttle Rock, AR Age: 52 Posts: 5,264	If I understand correctly, the pine Esquire/Broadcaster bodies were made from four pieces of 3/4" shelf stock, the same material as their amp cabinets.